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Dimi_Konstantflapalot

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Yea

He won't be getting one as far as im aware
Disappointing as he’s one of the few experienced lads we have, solid defensively and I think his crossing on the overlap/dead ball delivery has improved every season he’s been here

I worry we won’t replace all those attributes. Particularly as we’re stuck with Dasilva for another 2 seasons we could end up exposed
 

quinn1971

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Still not sure about Eccles, hes‘s looked ok this season due to how bad we’ve been, really want him to do well as a local lad but to get where we want we need a bit more from him, top six team ? then he’d be a good squad player
 

Sick Boy

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Disappointing as he’s one of the few experienced lads we have, solid defensively and I think his crossing on the overlap/dead ball delivery has improved every season he’s been here

I worry we won’t replace all those attributes. Particularly as we’re stuck with Dasilva for another 2 seasons we could end up exposed
I’m sure we’ll upgrade on Bidwell and have Dasilva as backup. I’m a big fan of his but it’s time for him to move on now if we’re looking to progress.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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I suspect the new manager will have an input on that.

He wasn’t quite what Robins wanted, that may not be true going forward.
If it’s Lampard I would be shocked if he wants to keep bidders.

Not that I don’t rate him but attacking overlapping wingbacks are a big part of his Derby and Chelsea system.

Harvey Vale from Chelsea might be a target in January
 

quinn1971

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No, he's looked good because hes comfortable at this level.
if we had the midfield we needed at the start of the season I don’t think he starts, he’s good at what he does, does the basics you’d expect him to, hope he keeps getting better, he’s a mid table championship player, unfortunately he’s not the only one
 

fernandopartridge

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if we had the midfield we needed at the start of the season I don’t think he starts, he’s good at what he does, does the basics you’d expect him to, hope he keeps getting better, he’s a mid table championship player, unfortunately he’s not the only one
He played in the team that was in automatic promotion form for half of last season somehow
 

skybluecam

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Disappointing as he’s one of the few experienced lads we have, solid defensively and I think his crossing on the overlap/dead ball delivery has improved every season he’s been here

I worry we won’t replace all those attributes. Particularly as we’re stuck with Dasilva for another 2 seasons we could end up exposed
He's not good enough on the ball and isn't getting any better. Dasilva looks unlikely to move on soon too, so I'd be shocked if Bidwell is renewed. Left back should be on our shopping list in Jan/next summer.
 

clint van damme

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And what about the other half, they went missing, not knocking him he‘s doing his best for us, but he doesn’t get into any of the top 6 teams which is where we want to be,

He's played in a top 6 team.
And the idea he'd be the one dropped if we had another midfielder given how Sheaf and Torp have performed up to now doesn't ring true with me, (though Torp does appear to be turning a corner).
 

quinn1971

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He's played in a top 6 team.
And the idea he'd be the one dropped if we had another midfielder given how Sheaf and Torp have performed up to now doesn't ring true with me, (though Torp does appear to be turning a corner).
didn’t say that, I said if we had the midfield we needed at the start of the season he wouldn’t start, I haven’t seen anything from rudoni or torp to say they would either, Eccles is a good player, who knows, new manager could improve him even more
 

rob9872

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I imagine his agent been negotiating for a few weeks which is why the timing seems odd with no manager and only 18 months into a 4 year deal, as he hit 100 first team appearances and that likely triggered a new deal. 24 too so perfect age for a 4 year and in line with new signings.

Hopefully we're getting a few contracts sorted and especially Sheaf them announce them post new manager as a sign of don't panic, we're continuing on the journey.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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So if you make a bad take it's a good thing and you're happy but if someone else makes a bad take it's embarrassing. Ha, sums you and your buddy up perfectly.
He isn’t wrong though, most of the concerns before weren’t to do with ability but injury record. Safe to say he’s not had any such problems since, but he’d had two non trivial muscle injuries before signing the first extension.
 

Perennial Lurker

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And what about the other half, they went missing, not knocking him he‘s doing his best for us, but he doesn’t get into any of the top 6 teams which is where we want to be,
Disagree and as there was interest from Premier league sides in the summer I think your opinion is way wide of the mark
 

harvey098

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Good news and he’s deserved better terms. I think his last contract was seen as a low risk gamble for us and Eccles was probably happy to sign as he was in and out of the team (mostly due to injury) but also wasn’t getting in at CM ahead of Hamer and Sheaf.

He’s deserved this if true. It would be subconsciously disruptive playing as well as he has this year and knowing he’s probably earning less than Sheaf, Torp and maybe even Allen (basically the other players in his position)
 

covcity4life

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I'm happy to have been proven wrong. I was apprehensive about the length of his last contract after his injuries but glad to have been proven wrong.

It's still nowhere near as bad as some of your takes though.
I never commented on original contract as far as I am aware. For me I've always said he's good

Still think he's tad overated by some though cos homegrown though
 

harvey098

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Not exactly what you said is it?
Think you might be mixing @PVA up with my comments. I was the one that said I’d’ve kept Biamou on for another year as a squad player and I probably wouldn’t have resigned Gyokeres after that loan at the time.

Genuinely though, is it tiring just constantly trying to argue with everyone. I reckon 95% of your posts on here are combative or looking to point score over what someone has said 5 years ago.

Any chance you can just contribute to the thread subject. Thoughts on Eccles getting a new contract if it’s true for example?
 

harvey098

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I never commented on original contract as far as I am aware. For me I've always said he's good

Still think he's tad overated by some though cos homegrown though
Funny, I’ve always thought it’s had the negative effect on him… I.e people under-rate him because he’s seen to just be a kid from the acadamy and a cheap option doing a job. If we paid £1m for him people would value him more imo
 

procdoc

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Eccles has emerged as one of our brightest talents, a player whose contributions often go under the radar but are absolutely vital to the team’s success. Eccles embodies everything us fans love about a player who wears the Sky Blue shirt with pride.

What sets Eccles apart is his versatility and composure. Whether he’s breaking up opposition attacks, dictating the tempo from midfield, or threading incisive passes forward, he does it all to a decent standard. His ability to read the game is exceptional; he is great at anticipating danger and positioning himself perfectly to neutralise the opponents attacks.

Eccles is equally an also play out from the back under pressure and can driving forward to spark an attack. His range of passing is underrated, and his engine is relentless—he covers every blade of grass, ensuring he’s a constant presence in both defensive and attacking phases.

Perhaps what I admire most about Eccles is his work ethic and passion. You can see in every performance how much it means to him to represent this club. He’s a player who leaves everything on the pitch.
 

Briles

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Always rated Eccles in the same way as I did Shipley. Good stand in. But he has really progressed and I remember Robins saying he can be whatever he wants to be. He hasn't fulfilled that potential but I'm glad to see him on the team sheet these days
 

Kilclines curly mullet

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I’m going to go against the majority here but for me, if we are going to aim for top 6 / top 2 over the next few seasons then Eccles isn’t the answer

Decent squad player but for me lacks aggression and is too safe on the ball.

If Lampard (assuming) comes in then hopefully he can take Eccles up a notch

And yes, I go to about 90% of games home and away.
 

Otis

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I’m going to go against the majority here but for me, if we are going to aim for top 6 / top 2 over the next few seasons then Eccles isn’t the answer

Decent squad player but for me lacks aggression and is too safe on the ball.

If Lampard (assuming) comes in then hopefully he can take Eccles up a notch

And yes, I go to about 90% of games home and away.
Disagree. I think he is quite aggressive and isn't just safe. He plays some lovely through balls to the strikers and spreading play.

He plays it safe when he needs to play it safe, but if he sees something on, he tries to play through balls out to the wings or to the forwards.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Seen this opinion on here a bit recently, but I don’t share it. Lampard was a brilliant CM, but his ability to improve our own midfielders will depend on his ability as a coach, not as a player.
Robins was a good striker, didn’t help our strikers put away sitters.
 

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