AFCCOVENTRY
Well-Known Member
@TheSimonGilbert: We're underway. Council QC James Goudie on his feet.
Clive Eakin has been relegated to the public area at the back with the rest of us. I'm on the back row behind TF & SG with Pat Abel, D & Jon Strange.
Clive Eakin has been relegated to the public area at the back with the rest of us. I'm on the back row behind TF & SG with Pat Abel, D & Jon Strange.
What's this got to do with garlic ?
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Clive Eakin has been relegated to the public area at the back with the rest of us. I'm on the back row behind TF & SG with Pat Abel, D & Jon Strange.
Seems to me that amongst all of the hot air and bluster from both (all) sides, there is a relatively simple centre thrust to the argument.
The council made the loan at preferential terms when another commercial loan had been offered, and possibly not all of the councillors had been involved in the decision.
Then they failed to comply with the EU notification that it had used its own funds to make the loan.
No matter how they have tried to mitigate and justify, that appears to have been the case.
The JR was brought on the grounds that CCC had used state funds inappropriately.
It's going to be interesting to see how this pans out .............
Seems to me that amongst all of the hot air and bluster from both (all) sides, there is a relatively simple centre thrust to the argument.
The council made the loan at preferential terms when another commercial loan had been offered, and possibly not all of the councillors had been involved in the decision.
Then they failed to comply with the EU notification that it had used its own funds to make the loan.
No matter how they have tried to mitigate and justify, that appears to have been the case.
The JR was brought on the grounds that CCC had used state funds inappropriately.
It's going to be interesting to see how this pans out .............
Is 'D' a rapper?
Bit of a tiff with the QC's there. Sisu QC objected to being misquoted re: illegal cessation of rent payments (and he was) but the point that stopping rent payments was illegal still stands. Another potential crack in Sisu's case?
Did you not realise that when SISU went for a JR?
Overall thought from yesterday from someone who was paying close attention:
Sisu QC seemed weak but could always provide evidence and a reply when challenged by the judge. CCC QC has far stronger manner but doesn't seem to have the answers as readily when off script / challenged by judge.
Key point from yesterday could be the value of the stadium – if £15m then could exonerate CCC. If max £8.5m then more shaky. Non-payment of rent has been established in this court so could also be a major factor.
Personally, I'm not sure if anything will change. I'm going to do my best to find out what Sisu / ACL plans are post-verdict but my thought is the same as it was before: Negotiations will have to take place with all options on the table.
If CCC win then we are as we are. If Sisu win then it all depends on what CCC has to do to remedy the situation.
Ultimately, the survival of ACL as a business is what is at stake here.
Obviously it's all been kicking around for forever, but following the case it seems to have been put much more clearly (to me, anyway).
How could it not be illegal.
It was a legally binding contract they broke?
We're they rely suggesting that wasn't illegal?
as a stab in the dark, my shout is...
the judge will say the loan didn't follow proper procedure and thus was illegal, however they were forced to do it by the rent being withheld....
result, slap on the wrists and small fine for council, with costs to be paid by each side and no compo awarded.
It's White Dee of 'Benefits Street' fame - she's in the wrong Court
@TheSimonGilbert: Council QC going over EU case law now. Main thrust is advice to council must have been material misleading to breach state aid law.
You might know her from Twitter as skybluechick. She was on Late Kick Off a few months ago giving a very impassioned speech on our plight. Moz Baker has been taking the piss out of her ever since(in a nice way – everyone loves D)
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