Hobo
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Don't know as it is not worded very well. Even if procedure wasn't followed doesn't make end result necessarily illegal?
There are two strands to the case. Let's wait and see what the Judge makes of it.
So is that him saying the state aid law was breached but because they were misled or am I reading it wrong?
In rebutting Sisu's claim, the CCC QC misquoted the Sisu QC (from yesterday) which is where the argument came from.
There's been a lot of discussion about the rent and if there was an agreement to reduce it, run down the escrow etc. The legal decision here (which is what counts) will be that whatever was discussed in 2012 wasn't legally binding so the club going ahead with the discussed terms is non-payment, even if reduced rather than complete non-payment.
Bear in mind that the appeal judge that got us to this point accepted that some rent was paid so the judgment today should include an actual legal decision on that if I understand correctly. We'll see what the judge says in his summing up.
BTW, worth following @skybluechick today. She's been tweeting furiously and seems to have been picking quite a few holes in Simon Gilbert's reporting.
(For context, she's away days only but doesn't trust anyone in this dispute and just wants it over.)
The JR remit has always been narrow. I think SISU have used it to get disclosure and try and bring things out to their advantage. However the Judge has kept it, rightly, to what is relevant to the case he is hearing.
I think a lot of fans haven't always had their heads around what the JR was going to be about, reading many of the posts in recent months.
public interest being the taxpayers money or having a team in Coventry?Judge says councillors still had to take into account the public interest, while being constrained by state aid law.
I think this is spot on. Sisu do have loads of documents, they just haven't been able to do much with them (unlike the Higgs case). I've been trying to find out if they may ever become public. Maybe during a civil action? (*groan*)
Yes she has the same opinion as you. That there were things the QC picked the council up on. Despite the council QC seeming more confident he was not as good when challenged.
I think this is spot on. Sisu do have loads of documents, they just haven't been able to do much with them (unlike the Higgs case). I've been trying to find out if they may ever become public. Maybe during a civil action? (*groan*)
public interest being the taxpayers money or having a team in Coventry?
Simon Gilbert@TheSimonGilbert · 10s Council QC says 500k escrow account used to pay ACL after club stopped paying rent was funded by the FA.
Keith Perry said:Council QC says the Escrow account, from which ACL took around £500,000 when Coventry City stopped paying rent, was funded by the Football Association.
I was actually paraphrasing her thoughts so I don't want to take credit for them!
(Hence the 'Overall thought from yesterday from someone who was paying close attention' intro) on my post at #45
BTW, worth following @skybluechick today. She's been tweeting furiously and seems to have been picking quite a few holes in Simon Gilbert's reporting.
(For context, she's away days only but doesn't trust anyone in this dispute and just wants it over.)
That's the biggest worry if that's what they are gearing themselves for then we have another few years of SISU building towards a civil action with no stadium built.
The biggest threat to them is expulsion from the league after three years. If it gets to that point them they can still negotiate a return to the Ricoh.
I imagine by then it will be the end for many Cov fans
There's a very subtle difference in the reporting.
There's a very subtle difference in the reporting.
I think this is spot on. Sisu do have loads of documents, they just haven't been able to do much with them (unlike the Higgs case). I've been trying to find out if they may ever become public. Maybe during a civil action? (*groan*)
Please expand Godiva - can't see an issue (apart form the Escorw containing more tha n 500k in KP's tweet (if that's what it's called)
Thanks Rob
Also do you how SISU have now moved the goalposts for their case?
Is it that they are now saying that councillors were not given enough info?
Council QC says Sisu trying to get the loan deal overturned to get ACL back to the distressed financial position it was in so they can seek to gain control of the Ricoh Arena.
If I agreed with nothing else, I'd say this is beyond dispute.
What's this got to do with garlic ?
If I agreed with nothing else, I'd say this is beyond dispute.
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