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Anyone else getting Higgs case vibes here?
Still thinking some kind of draw: decision contravenes state aid but no damages kinda thing. The more I hear, the more it seems like some corners were cut in a panic, but a panic induced by Sisu and done with legitimate aims. Not all procedure was followed, but the council was allowed to take the decision they did kind of thing. As always, no idea if this is a possible outcome.
Quote-: Sisu QC says European Commission should have been notified.
This I feel is what is going to be the Achilles' heel for the CCC.
If CCC did not notify the European commission regarding the State Aid (if it is classed as one) then they have been very amateurish and stupid.
I do fear this is what the CCC downfall will be.
Be interesting to see who he is talking to/having a drink with afterwards...
Mark Labovitch:
'My 1st ever tweet. Honoured to be mentioned by Simon Gilbert, the Harry Styles of local journalism'
Haha! Simon does have a touch of the boy band about him it has to be said[Says me who has the look of Tim Fisher's dog's arse on a cold morning]
Quote-: Sisu QC says European Commission should have been notified.
This I feel is what is going to be the Achilles' heel for the CCC.
If CCC did not notify the European commission regarding the State Aid (if it is classed as one) then they have been very amateurish and stupid.
I do fear this is what the CCC downfall will be.
Whomever he wants to, I'm sure.
At the risk of taking this off-topic, I'm going to be straight here. Les Reid strikes me as a decent bloke and an honest journalist, and if he's been chucked off the story or bounced out of the CET for holding an opinion different to mine, the editor's, or anyone else's, it's a scandal. If there's an imputation by anyone here that he's SISU's man, then that's grossly unfair in my book.
Similarly though, Simon Gilbert is also as far as I know, an honest, decent journo, telling the truth as he sees it.
If there's an issue with what either of these guys has said recently or in the past, then it's surely better to challenge it on the facts, rather than on some presumption of bias on the part of the individual.
Who is that hot chick on your Avatar.. your mum???
His ex-wife I would say from the way he talks about her.
Whomever he wants to, I'm sure.
At the risk of taking this off-topic, I'm going to be straight here. Les Reid strikes me as a decent bloke and an honest journalist, and if he's been chucked off the story or bounced out of the CET for holding an opinion different to mine, the editor's, or anyone else's, it's a scandal. If there's an imputation by anyone here that he's SISU's man, then that's grossly unfair in my book.
Similarly though, Simon Gilbert is also as far as I know, an honest, decent journo, telling the truth as he sees it.
If there's an issue with what either of these guys has said recently or in the past, then it's surely better to challenge it on the facts, rather than on some presumption of bias on the part of the individual.
Whomever he wants to, I'm sure.
At the risk of taking this off-topic, I'm going to be straight here. Les Reid strikes me as a decent bloke and an honest journalist, and if he's been chucked off the story or bounced out of the CET for holding an opinion different to mine, the editor's, or anyone else's, it's a scandal. If there's an imputation by anyone here that he's SISU's man, then that's grossly unfair in my book.
Similarly though, Simon Gilbert is also as far as I know, an honest, decent journo, telling the truth as he sees it.
If there's an issue with what either of these guys has said recently or in the past, then it's surely better to challenge it on the facts, rather than on some presumption of bias on the part of the individual.
ACL qc addressed this, argued this case isn't for a European court. Eu didn't need to be told.
ACL qc addressed this, argued this case isn't for a European court. Eu didn't need to be told.
ACL qc addressed this, argued this case isn't for a European court. Eu didn't need to be told.
His ex-wife I would say from the way he talks about her.
It all depends on the Judges decision. But I must point out that on the State Aid guidance and on there flow chart, the clearly states the importance of notifying the EC if there is any State Aid above 200,000 Euro's, which this was.
It all depends on the Judges decision. But I must point out that on the State Aid guidance and on there flow chart, it clearly states the importance of notifying the EC if there is any State Aid above 200,000 Euro's, which this was.
If she was my ex. I wouldn't be a teacher, I'd be a millionaire.
Oh, you think she would share?
More likely you would have been stripped of all you had in the divorce process.
Yes so they may well find in favour of sisu. However, as sisu withheld rent they are unlikely to receive damages.
We're ACL in financial difficulty? Odd that as certain financial experts on here have argued this never was the case.
Quote-: Sisu QC says European Commission should have been notified.
This I feel is what is going to be the Achilles' heel for the CCC.
If CCC did not notify the European commission regarding the State Aid (if it is classed as one) then they have been very amateurish and stupid.
I do fear this is what the CCC downfall will be.
It all depends on the Judges decision. But I must point out that on the State Aid guidance and on there flow chart, it clearly states the importance of notifying the EC if there is any State Aid above 200,000 Euro's, which this was.
How the bloody hell do you delete your own duplicated posts????
As I said in another thread. If one of my employees treated my customers the way Reid was talking to his readers on Twitter and in blog comments
Yeah, his twitter was sometimes rather odd.
Then again, it was also somewhat impassioned at times! Would have probably been better off just not answering people on there full-stop.
[Edit post] [Delete].. (then the tricky bit) select the "Delete Post" radio button below "Delete this post in the following manner:" then press [Delete Post]..
couldn't be more complex if I'd designed it myself! :facepalm:
Yeah, his twitter was sometimes rather odd.
Then again, it was also somewhat impassioned at times! Would have probably been better off just not answering people on there full-stop.
Don't just quote half of it:
State aid is a European Commission term referring to forms of assistance from a public body or publicly-funded body which is given to organisations engaged in economic commercial activity on a selective basis, with the potential to distort competition and affect trade between Member States of the European Union.
How has it distorted competition and affected trade between member states?
Yes so they may well find in favour of sisu. However, as sisu withheld rent they are unlikely to receive damages.
We're ACL in financial difficulty? Odd that as certain financial experts on here have argued this never was the case.
As I said in another thread. If one of my employees treated my customers the way Reid was talking to his readers on Twitter and in blog comments, I'd fire them on the spot. Simon has given a masterclass in how to handle 21st century media and all that comes with being closer to your readership IMO. Reid, for whatever reason, obviously isn't set up to cope with the Internet, and sort of imploded. It happens to the best of them. Old media and new media are very different beasts and news isn't just about smokey rooms and drunken sources and "extra extra read all about it" any more.
Besides, if you set yourself against the readership, you'd better either be so bloody good they can't afford to lose you, or have some extraordinary evidence for your case. Snowden wouldn't have worked without the files, it'd just have been some anti-American conspiracy nut causing trouble. Reid never convinced the readership of his views.
That's kinda my point with the old/new media comments. Simon is either polite or says nothing at all. These days you've got to be like that in your job if you're going to engage in social media. I get messages from kids on various platforms occasionally (I don't hide myself particularly), if they've left school and are polite I'll answer them as if I was at work. If not I ignore them. If I started answering back in kind, I doubt I'd last long.
is that the last input from the qc's? If so what happens next?
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