James Smith
Well-Known Member
Yes Mythbusters did it.
Can you polish a turd?
Tell me Rob what percentage of fans do you think trust Sisu ?
Only SISU and your small group want the Ricoh sold to SISU.
Maybe not 'pro-Sisu', but you must admit you certainly have a common goal.
90%?
You obviously have in writing something to the contrary then, John?
No it's not. There were discussions back in November when the JR appeal was pending and there have been attempts to start discussions recently. There is nothing to stop any negotiations to bring the club back to the Ricoh happening right now. The could all nip over to the pub when this session finishes. It's not like they need to go far to get hold of any lawyers.
You're right about us not publicly pressurising regarding a rent deal as that was being covered by both the Sky Blue Trust and KCIC/NOPM. We've said time & time again that we look to fill in the gaps in campaigning to make sure that all sides come to the table.
That said, we have discussed different rent deals (e.g. if a new stadium is built 'hopscotching' there via the Ricoh) in meetings with various Sisu people.
90%?
No sorry !
Just don't trust them. Sisu through their actions have done nothing to warrant my trust.
I take it they have yours though ?
-Negotiating with the club's owners is a start down that road.Yes negotiating with SISU has worked brilliantly in the past. SISU have such a poor reputation on that score.
-We are not saying 'sell to Sisu'. We are saying 'negotiate with all possible ownership scenarios.You may have noticed that CCC don't want to sell the Ricoh, so isn't that totally pointless ?
they finished for the day?
Does anyone know the format of the 3 days? Is it Sisu day 1, CCC day 2 and summing up day 3?
Expected to be SISU: Day 1, morning session of Day 2, then CCC: afternoon session of Day 2 and Day 3.
They can hardly nip over to the pub now. They could have done on the steps and asked the judge for an adjournment whilst they discussed the case together.
Sorry, but this JR prevented any negotiations. Your pressure should have been applied to SISU first - drop the JR - and then to CCC - look they have dropped the JR can we start something moving?
That was the middle way. We now have to await the outcome of the JR. All personal relationships between SISU and CCC have been destroyed. The air is full of bitterness.
What a mess.
so fuck the council then if they wont sell
finnaly dances gets it
well done!
We all knew this would be the case. Nice to see it in black and white.
PLAN A : Pull the lease to devalue ACL and pick it up for £6.4M. Bring back the club and value increases to make an instant £13.1M profit for Sisu*.
Note* : Not Coventry City.
Ba£$ards
You know, you are perfectly at liberty to start up your own campaign with these specific aims & objectives.
You know, you are perfectly at liberty to start up your own campaign with these specific aims & objectives.
Ever thought about studying a second language-may i suggest English ?so fuck the council then if they wont sell
finnaly dances gets it
well done!
Jesus, read the thing. We are not saying 'sell to Sisu'. We are saying 'negotiate with all possible ownership scenarios.' A lot of regular fans don't care about who owns what – they want their club back in the city.
Negotiating – no matter how icky and distasteful some anti-Sisu fundamentalists might find it – with the club's owners is a start down that road. The alternative is many, many more days in court and rattling around in Northampton.
My goal is getting the club back to the Ricoh.
that was a joke i hope90%?
Ever thought about studying a second language-may i suggest English ?
EDIT..I think you mistakenly believed i was coming round to your point of view ?
Please don't make that mistake again
So CBRE value ACL at 19.5m with the full lease and licence, at 8.4m with a rent of £200k and 6.5m with no rent at all.
January 2013 CCFC still had the original lease & licence in place.
Loan to value for the council should be 75%. Loan made was 14.4m which puts the value of ACL at £19.5m.
But according to SISU QC that over values ACL by 15m so they believe the value was 4.5m. Which is actually below CBRE's lowest value. But told charity it was worthless but prepared to pay £2m
none of this seems to join up
I think to be honest mate, most people didn't see what you did other than hold a protest against the council when the majority felt the ball wasn't in their court.
You claim you're the only one pressuring all sides, but I know for a fact that's bollocks as the Trust have been doing it since day 1, until the club stopped talking to them.
You also hide your links to Reid, and by association Sisu, while claiming to be unbiased. And that's before today's antics on this thread towards OSB. The one thing that makes GCBTTR stand out from KCIC and SBT is the complete lack of transparency, the lack of fan engagement and the one sided protesting.
Can you really blame people if they don't think you're 100% balanced (in both senses of the word)? The weak claim of "Oh I'm filling gaps in the market" was never going to wash.
I'm sure you're a good bloke who's just taken his mate's word for a few things and been a willing pair of ears for some others, but surely you can see the mistakes you made if the aim was to move things forward? Or did you genuinely think more secrecy and division was the answer?
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