Grendel
Well-Known Member
How do you know the wages of clubs out of interest this season?
Robins won 2 promotions in 3 seasons, we are 22nd in the wage table, £4m behind 21st, £9m behind 20th.
Plymouth are 18th in the market table in L1, a much closer league, and sit 14th.
The comparison is weak. Ryan Lowe, pfft.
How do we attract better players in a stupid money league when others have much better to offer? Coventry, Rotherham, Wycombe all could only afford to bring a butter knife to a gun fight.
Sack him ......lets take the chance ...if we stay up ...good choice,.... if we go down - stupid decision....
Who takes over in the interim?
He’s an up and coming manager, that plays to our philopsophies.
the bare minimum we should expect is to finish above Rotherham, Wycombe and Sheffield Weds. they had a point deduction.
I was asked for an alternative. I’ve picked a manager that had a ideal to play attacking football, not shit your bed defend a 0-0 at home to bottom of the league Wycombe.
I’ve also pointed out managers who have done well at this level, including keeping clubs up but Mark Robins is deemed better, when in reality he isn’t
our players need a kick up the arse and a fresh outlook. Not a manager belittling them and making them feel like they won a raffle to be in this league
No, I've calmed down from Friday. It isn't the right time to change and the manager deserves better.
It's funny really, if you'd have said we'd spend almost the entire season outside the bottom 3, despite missing one or more key players for a lot of the season, and fans were calling for Robins' head, you'd think fans are stupid.
That said, despite everything it's hard to ignore the many games where we've appeared to settle for a point where 3 were very much achievable. Whether that's solely down to the manager I don't know but it would certainly appear to be his biggest issue.
If we go down I think he probably should go depending on how we go down.If we go down?
What you on about sussed, Robins freaked at any side that had intent and went ultra defensive. The one time we had a go we won 2-0 against Brentford.Our philosophies or Robins/Viveash philosophies that got us here in the first place? And were sussed within 2 minutes of championship football?
You’re correct. All of us are Coventry fans, we’re frustrated at the team because we know full well they can stay up in this leagueWarned myself to stop being argumentative on here after taking a break. Not that I’m angry with anyone. We’re all frustrated and want to stay up more than anything.
Manager change can get a short term re boot and now I see us in real trouble and relegation would be a disaster and we could easily spend another decade in the wildernessIf we go down I think he probably should go depending on how we go down.
Why are you so keen on changing manager if you think that anybody would have to "worship at the alter of SISU"? Surely that makes it all a bit moot?
Exactly.If we go down I think he probably should go depending on how we go down.
Why are you so keen on changing manager if you think that anybody would have to "worship at the alter of SISU"? Surely that makes it all a bit moot?
Slaven Bilic ..he is just pissing about in china nowWho takes over in the interim?
On a massive salary no doubt, he wouldn’t come here anyway.Slaven Bilic ..he is just pissing about in china now
No but now they’ve got a hectic schedule, with half the team recovering from Covid. They’re still more likely to stay up than we are
TenuresSome have been on about Robins for pretty much the whole of his tenure ..
Teapots or cups and saucers?Slaven Bilic ..he is just pissing about in china now
In 3 seasons Ryan Lowe has had 2 promotions, and has safely kept Plymouth up in league one. He probably has one of the 4 lowest wage budgets in league one.
plays passing football and more importantly adapts to the situation. Plays 3-4-1-2 mostly which suits our players
It’s not the reality of the situation though and has been used as an excuse all season.To me Robins is taking a lot of the flack for players' mistakes.
Yes Robins has made mistakes, but so have players. You can think back to some awful errors through the season and could easily add 4 or 5 points to the tally without some of the worst ones.
Then everyone would be lauding Robins as a genius, but without him actually doing anything differently.
Biamou giving the ball away v Forest. Rose turning into his own net in the reverse fixture. Wilson and Marosi dropping numerous clangers. Biamou's miss v Wycombe. Just a few examples.
Add the points that those errors cost us and all of a sudden we're comfortable and Robins is a hero in everyone's eyes despite doing exactly the same things and no one mentions his shortcomings.
Is finishing higher than Wycombe, Rotherham and Sheff W with a points deduction really too much to expect?
It's about what we expected. No more, no less.
Right now we're on course to do that so I really don't know what all the fuss is about.
That's it in a nutshellI think that’s a great result for us, however I think many are angry at the abject performances from the players, which lack any kind of fight and bizarre tactics from Robins. This has been going on for far too long. I can accept losing games, as long as the players give everything.
That's it in a nutshell
Look at Birmingham. They looked doomed and even their own fans were saying they were destined to go down. They looked such an awful side
Bowyer has simply got them playing at a higher energy and with a high pressing game. It's made a world of difference and we can surely emulate that.
High energy. Press, harry and close down.
It's not rocket science.
If we can't do that, Robins has to go.
We need to be sweating blood out there every game. We may have players of lesser quality than almost every other side in the league, but we are capable of working hard. We now have two goalscorers back in the fold.
I dare say, had we had Walker or Godden in earlier, they would have definitely have scored a number of those missed Biamou chances.
Right now we're on course to do that so I really don't know what all the fuss is about.
Things is though, we are NOT on course to do this!! That is the problem!
Yes, currently we are out of the bottom three. BUT....
We are sinking and both Wycombe and Rotherham have better form than us (though unlikely Wycombe will catch us)
Things carry on like this and we will be relegated.
If Rotherham draw with us, we get a point too...Rotherham beat Wycombe tomorrow and at least draw with us and they will go above us. (On basis we lose to Bristol and Bournemouth). They will rest their best players for our game and not play them against QPR.
If Rotherham draw with us, we get a point too...
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Things is though, we are NOT on course to do this!! That is the problem!
Yes, currently we are out of the bottom three. BUT....
We are sinking and both Wycombe and Rotherham have better form than us (though unlikely Wycombe will catch us)
Things carry on like this and we will be relegated.
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