lordsummerisle
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Hard to get an impression of anything if people don't answer the phone though I'd have thought?
The impression I got, and I may be wrong, is that ML wanted a discussion about the offer over the phone rather than in person.
Has Labovich not tried ringing you numerous times??
No but he is taking lessons from Byng on how to send emails:jerkit:
I've said previously that contrary to the view of many, I think sisu are brilliant at pr eg the new stadium is sheer genius because you can't prove a negative so it's impossible to prove sisu won't build one.
Similarly with this. A formal written offer was made privately with time for a response before going public, as a way of getting us back to the Ricoh (when - and apols in advance if I'm wrong - sisu/ccc/fl/acl/fa/trust/back to ricoh group between them are doing precisely sweet fa to get us home). A week later not a jot of progress has been made but ML has successfully got people on here (though not on FB and twitter) arguing about anything but being at the Ricoh. This last week is just leaving me utterly, utterly depressed (although in even greater awe of sisu's pr than ever)
you were anti sisu going into negotiations so it was always doomed to failure i guess.
i honestly thought you were gonna be the bigger man though.
i honestly thought you were gonna be the bigger man though.
I agree. However, Tony and Jack are just stoking the ego with the "yeah, email is the way to go in the 21st Century, etc etc". I'll bet my left nut that if it was ML saying he wanted to email then they'd both be bleating that a phone call is what was needed. It's fucking stupid. If Michael is refusing calls then what level of professionalism does that show? After days of refusing to answer simple questions on the deal it's a poor show all round, it really is.
Look, just answer the fucking phone, then send him an email stating exactly what the offer is,with all bells and whistles attached.
Stop making statements to the press or anybody else, and get on the phone.
We haven't got as far as negotiations, because no one can decide how to contact each other. Fucking pathetic.
So if a Phone call isn't the way to do things, why on earth was Michael sending out emails every week saying "Pick up the phone?"
Just answer his calls, see what he wants and crack on with arranging a meet up.
People moan about PR this and Media that but it is never an issue when you are sending them a copy of the offer letter a couple of minutes after the silly 48 hour deadline put on it, then within a short time their reporter has an "opinion" piece on it and the Trust release a statement.
If you don't want the PR and media involved and ML apparently just doing this to divert fans, then don't fucking run to the press in the first place and do it behind closed doors. You started a press battle in the first place.
kcic's sole interest (unlike it appears anyone else at all) is doing something concrete to get us back to the ricoh. kcic has played this dead straight. The offer was made formally and privately. Time was given for a response before going public. We were led to believe yesterday morning by a third party that sisu wanted talks. I have sent several txts to ML offering times and dates and been nothing other than completely polite. I did receive an email this morning and replied "Great! Mark, please just email me details for meeting and I will share with colleagues". I have not as yet received a response. I am not going to get into games of illegally recording a telephone call as has been suggested on here! If a simple email is too much trouble for sisu then I really can't see what more kcic can do. As I said, I'm completely and utterly depressed but credit where it's due and well played to ML for the way he has spun this - kcic as an informal fans' group just can't compete with sisu's pr expertise
kcic's sole interest (unlike it appears anyone else at all) is doing something concrete to get us back to the ricoh. kcic has played this dead straight. The offer was made formally and privately. Time was given for a response before going public. We were led to believe yesterday morning by a third party that sisu wanted talks. I have sent several txts to ML offering times and dates and been nothing other than completely polite. I did receive an email this morning and replied "Great! Mark, please just email me details for meeting and I will share with colleagues". I have not as yet received a response. I am not going to get into games of illegally recording a telephone call as has been suggested on here! If a simple email is too much trouble for sisu then I really can't see what more kcic can do. As I said, I'm completely and utterly depressed but credit where it's due and well played to ML for the way he has spun this - kcic as an informal fans' group just can't compete with sisu's pr expertise
Heard you the first time Nick
like i've said all along. Sisu dont need the services of a WS type PR company there is too many "fans" on here, GMK and in the SCG doing that service for free.
if nothing comes of this, these "fans" deserve sisu and the destruction they have brought to our club. luckily you are the minority as the crowds at suxfields confirm.
So are you saying you haven't had any missed calls from ML?
Have SISU had more details than the original letter?
Michael, you are moaning about PR and spinning but again you are doing exactly what you are moaning about..... If you don't want a PR / Media battle then keep it private and don't run to the press and make statements in the first place.
Jesus, have you read all of the stuff about this offer? Nobody is doing their PR, they are just stating the obvious.
kcic's sole interest (unlike it appears anyone else at all) is doing something concrete to get us back to the ricoh. kcic has played this dead straight. The offer was made formally and privately. Time was given for a response before going public. We were led to believe yesterday morning by a third party that sisu wanted talks. I have sent several txts to ML offering times and dates and been nothing other than completely polite. I did receive an email this morning and replied "Great! Mark, please just email me details for meeting and I will share with colleagues". I have not as yet received a response. I am not going to get into games of illegally recording a telephone call as has been suggested on here! If a simple email is too much trouble for sisu then I really can't see what more kcic can do. As I said, I'm completely and utterly depressed but credit where it's due and well played to ML for the way he has spun this - kcic as an informal fans' group just can't compete with sisu's pr expertise
As I have said before this deal offer in my opinion has put SISU behind the black ball, which way do they go ? Publically they will lose even more face if they just reject it, someone is losing shed full of money with this Sixfields farce and I believe will lose more paying supporters this season and remember this proposal comes with an offer to buy the club too, not yet rejected
So if a Phone call isn't the way to do things, why on earth was Michael sending out emails every week saying "Pick up the phone?"
Just answer his calls, see what he wants and crack on with arranging a meet up. Is there an issue with discussing the actual small details like "how much?" on the phone before meeting up? I wouldn't bother travelling to buy a used car if I phoned them and asked them a couple of basic questions to find out first to judge whether it was even worth my time.
People moan about PR this and Media that but it is never an issue when you are sending them a copy of the offer letter a couple of minutes after the silly 48 hour deadline put on it, then within a short time their reporter has an "opinion" piece on it and the Trust release a statement.
If you don't want the PR and media involved and ML apparently just doing this to divert fans, then don't fucking run to the press in the first place and do it behind closed doors. You started a press battle in the first place.
One of the biggest problems that our supporters have with SISU is the way that they spin the truth. They will know this. To me if they were being serious about this offer they would make sure that all the evidence of the offer is in the open. If they are going to spin their way out of the offer for obvious reasons they will want to keep it as secretly as they can so they can spin the no into a way that makes it look like everyone else's fault but their own.
I see your point in "pick up the phone", though this could be interpreted as any means of communication. And while yes, many people would use the phone as an initial ice breaker, or to see if something is worth persuing in earnest, Michaels probably been advised that any contact should be documented. Hence sending a text rather than speaking.
If this is the case, really can't blame him going on past histories between all the major players. If a couple of people from here were to chat over the phone, who's to say what was REALLY discussed. And which person would you believe?
One of the biggest problems that our supporters have with SISU is the way that they spin the truth. They will know this. To me if they were being serious about this offer they would make sure that all the evidence of the offer is in the open. If they are going to spin their way out of the offer for obvious reasons they will want to keep it as secretly as they can so they can spin the no into a way that makes it look like everyone else's fault but their own.
And what about Michael refusing to answer questions or give details of the offer? He's being no better than SISU.
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