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win9nut

win9nut

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This may have already been discussed so my apologies if it has...
How much land do you actually need for a new stadium?
I realise SISU are supposedly looking for c26 acres but that would include new training facilities, youth academy, no doubt hotels and retail areas too.
Take a look from a different angle... How big a footprint is required for just the new stadium? 10 acres? 7? I really don't know...
Will that size land be available in the Coventry City jurisdiction?
I came across a 5 acre site for sale just outside the City Centre the other week, easy Ring road access...
This option could seriously increase the number of viable sites for the new stadium, and decrease the number and/or complexity of planning applications required...
If SISU want to build surely this would be the "cheapest" option...
 
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CTID

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By my calculation a football pitch is about 1.7 acres. the stadium alone is likely to cover at least 3 times that, so roughly 5 acres. I would guess you would need at the very least 10 acres
 
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SkyBlueHomer

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Just done a quick google search for 'land size calulator'.

Just an approx guide, Highfield Road site comes out at approx 8 acres.
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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Fisher has said 60 acres but I think that includes moving from Ryton and / or Higgs plus non-stadium development (shops etc). The actual stadium part of the Ricoh is approx 8 acres so add a bit on to allow for infrastructure and I guess 10 - 15 acres would be the minimum.
 
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CTID

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Ashdown said:
5 acres, fucking hell, that's a good one that !!
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Dont know why this question has peeked my interest considering the probability of this ever happening anyway....but out of interest. how big do you think the HR site was between all those houses? Can be a huge amount more than 5 acres?
 
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Ashdown

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Perhaps we should just grass over that unused site that looks a mess down by the Belgrade theatre, throw up some posts, good parking at the Belgrade Plaza and plenty of local boozers in walking distance.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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I think Fisher said 60 acres knowing that there are no sites within the city that are big enough.

On that site in CV1 it can't be much use as the university hasn't already bought it and I can see a huge stumbling block that somebody is going to want paying for it.
 
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Kingokings204

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So we really need a thread on this? It's not really a conversation though sure the OP had best intentions this really is a non starter.

Sisu intend to build or sisu plan to purchase land aren't phrases we use in these parts.
 
Senior Vick from Alicante

Senior Vick from Alicante

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Can't see it happening. Theirs no associated business to buy with empty land. Ergo their is no vehicle for them to saddle the court fees on to and no third parties to sue to get the funds to build the stadium.
 
Otis

Otis

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This land search ..... I just have this vision in my head of Fisher, Waggot and Seppala, all wearing eye patches, going out in the dead of night with spades over their shoulders, clutching a tatty old map with the letter X on it.
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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whats the Butts Park area size ?

If the pitch was rotated, it could well be big enough for a 12k

Wouldnt surprise me at all if it had more space around it to Highfield Rd

EDIT - Maybe not !
 
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bigfatronssba

bigfatronssba

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ccfcway said:
whats the Butts Park area size ?

If the pitch was rotated, it could well be big enough for a 12k

Wouldnt surprise me at all if it had more space around it to Highfield Rd
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Doesn't look like you could do much with it without building on the park next to it. Cant see planning permission being granted for that.
 
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wingy

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That sites being built on currently CCFCWAY
Ithink
Several hundred high rise apartments, some sheltered I think
 
ccfcway

ccfcway

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wingy said:
That sites being built on currently CCFCWAY
Ithink
Several hundred high rise apartments, some sheltered I think
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the bit in red is being built on. I was wondering about the existing site and expanding that as much as possible.

The main stand is 3,000. If the pitch was rotated, could easily get a similar one the other side.

12k could be possible
 
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martcov

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bigfatronssba said:
Doesn't look like you could do much with it without building on the park next to it. Cant see planning permission being granted for that.
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The traffic alone would make it a non starter and then parking..... Although with declining attendances, who knows....?
 
italiahorse

italiahorse

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ccfcway said:
the bit in red is being built on. I was wondering about the existing site and expanding that as much as possible.

The main stand is 3,000. If the pitch was rotated, could easily get a similar one the other side.

12k could be possible
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With no capacity increase possible the Premier League would be for others.
 
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skybluericoh

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Use to play subutio on a dining table in the front room. Couldn't afford the grandstand and everything but sure it would of fitted.
 
CJ_covblaze

CJ_covblaze

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Tim Fisher said at the recent stadium meeting he wants 50-60 acres. A deal on Ryton was close but the club were gazumpt at the last minute by the current owners of it who paid £650,000 per acre which is the going rate for industrial. I believe he said the going rate for sports and leisure is £250,000 per acre (housing is circa £1m) so for a 60 acre site it's around £12.5m just for the land acquisition. I'm guessing some of that would be sold to developers for retail at an increased cost to help fund the project.

This ties in to what someone from the Dons Trust said to me last season. Based on theirs being in London and ours being in Coventry he said the initial outlay for the land acquisition will be north of £10m (the land their development is to be built on was to be purchased by a supermarket for around £40m).

Interestingly their build cost (not including the land) was around £17-20m for an 11,000 seater without the facilities suitable for week day conferences etc. For that they were looking at possibly another £5m on top. He also estimated the cost of building one in Coventry wouldn't be massively different to one in the Capital. Especially as the materials and groundwork costs wouldn't differ too much.

How much would an 18000 seater cost with the facilities to compete with the Ricoh and NEC just up the road?
 
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