Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Actually they wouldn't give a shit and you know it
Actually they wouldn't give a shit and you know itThe real point is though a billionaire owner would look at a club who own an 11,000 stadium before looking at a club that rents 23 days a year and gets no commercial benefits whatsoever.
It saddens me that there are grown adults, intelligent-sounded people like yourself who are not morally outraged by SISU's forcible breaking of the lease through Phoenixing tactics, and who wouldn't celebrate when they were foiled in their objectives by the council whipping the rug from under them by selling to Wasps. It was so richly deserved, it was delicious.
The real point is though a billionaire owner would look at a club who own an 11,000 stadium before looking at a club that rents 23 days a year and gets no commercial benefits whatsoever.
Yeah but any prospective owner can look at the years before 2005 and see crowds of 13k at Highfield Road.
Let's be honest, the high crowds was a new stadium bounce. Our last few averages in Highfield Road were woeful
No but I believe its almost certain one or more of the SISU investors are.She is not a billionaire
You live in la la land pal. I doubt the FL would accept another 2+2 deal based on the broken assurances Fisher gave to them last time, in my opinion hard and fast plans will have to be got and the project actually underway for the league to okay it, other members would definitely crib if they gave us extra favours. Also I don't go along with this endlessA long term deal would be massively skewed in wasps favour. Who would ever purchase a football club that if successful would give commercial earnings to an inferior landlord.
The only options are;
Another 2+2 extension
An agreement after next season to play short term at the butts
In the second scenario a site for a new ground would also have to be part of it.
People need to accept a long term deal at the Ricoh would mean no other owners with serious intent will come along.
I don't think any organisation would have paid anything for the higgs share in isolation. Also at the time Gidney felt the club were a huge inconvenience and a himderence to his madcap scheme of rivalling the NEC
I think they'd be delighted that they don't have to worry about getting embroiled in our situation for another couple of years at least.You live in la la land pal. I doubt the FL would accept another 2+2 deal based on the broken assurances Fisher gave to them last time, in my opinion hard and fast plans will have to be got and the project actually underway for the league to okay it, other members would definitely crib if they gave us extra favours. Also I don't go along with this endless
guff trotted out by yourself and others on here that we are
permenantly shafted because Wasps own the Ricoh. The situation isn't ideal admittedly but with
the right owners there will be options to buy into the stadium I'm sure. If that happened and the football club owned let's say 25% of it that would be 25% more than it ever has owned.
No but I believe its almost certain one or more of the SISU investors are.
They won't charge us £2million a year. You have no facts to back this up. I don't the other way
Explain away. When you look at what is being said on here and elsewhere the suggestion is we abandon any thought of a ground at BPA, CCC have stated there are no other sites available in the city and the local MPs are asking the FL to refuse any application by the club to play outside the city.Dave you seem like a nice and smart bloke unlike many of those on here but i do want to take you doen the pub and explain it all to you.
And what triggered that? ACL made an application to the High Court for the club to be placed into administration. That doesn't happen immediately so SISU placed the club into administration after ACL had made their application in order that they get their choice of administrator.Wrong! SISU put CCFC into Administration
Explain away. When you look at what is being said on here and elsewhere the suggestion is we abandon any thought of a ground at BPA, CCC have stated there are no other sites available in the city and the local MPs are asking the FL to refuse any application by the club to play outside the city.
In that situation the club has absolutely no position to negotiate on. We're told CCFC make very little contribution to ACL so why would they care if we walk away, we've even been told they'd be better off if we did as other events on match days would generate more.
I can't see anything that would stop Wasps asking for any amount they wanted as rent and the club having no choice other than to accept.
And what triggered that? ACL made an application to the High Court for the club to be placed into administration. That doesn't happen immediately so SISU placed the club into administration after ACL had made their application in order that they get their choice of administrator.
Indeed they haven't but it isn't the current situation being talked about. Its a hypothetical future scenario that is the preferred route for some not the current situation.The FL haven't said we cannot play outside Coventry so at the current stage we are at, we have the ability to negotiate.
What about the land behind the John White Centre, looks big enough for a stadium, and could access from the A46. Presumably Council owned.I thought that CCC stated that there wasn't any 65 acre sites in the city rather than any site at all? If the BPA is to be believed it would seem our owners have reduced their expectations a tad. Has anyone from the club approached CCC asking for help looking for a smaller site?
They would accept a 1 year deal if it meant CCFC could fulfill its fixtures. It's not going to punish the club for not signing a long term deal, completely illogical.You live in la la land pal. I doubt the FL would accept another 2+2 deal based on the broken assurances Fisher gave to them last time, in my opinion hard and fast plans will have to be got and the project actually underway for the league to okay it, other members would definitely crib if they gave us extra favours. Also I don't go along with this endless
guff trotted out by yourself and others on here that we are
permenantly shafted because Wasps own the Ricoh. The situation isn't ideal admittedly but with
the right owners there will be options to buy into the stadium I'm sure. If that happened and the football club owned let's say 25% of it that would be 25% more than it ever has owned.
Indeed they haven't but it isn't the current situation being talked about. Its a hypothetical future scenario that is the preferred route for some not the current situation.
Let me try and make the point as simple as possible for you:
It is being suggested that the club abandons all plans to play at any ground other than the Ricoh, be that a new ground or groundshare in or out of the city.
It is being suggested that should the club attempt to set foot over the city boundary the FL do not sanction it.
It has been repeatedly stated that the income generated for Wasps by having the club at the Ricoh is at best insignificant, at worst detrimental.
On that basis what leverage does the club have in any negotiations? If Wasps say we want £250K, 500K, 1m or 10m what happens if the club says no? Does that automatically mean the rent will be millions, of course not, although I would be surprised, given what has happened over this season and last with ancillary matchday costs, if any offer made by Wasps does not see an increase in the rent over the current agreement.
When you say 'at the current stage we are at, we have the ability to negotiate' you are confirming what I have been saying. While there is even a slight potential of other options we have some leverage, not withstanding the notion that our presence is detrimental, remove all of those options and we have none.
What about the land behind the John White Centre, looks big enough for a stadium, and could access from the A46. Presumably Council owned.
Used to have football pitches marked out and goals, but nothing there at the moment. Not used for anything as far as I'm aware.Looks to be a big slab of green there on google maps. What's it currently used for? Can't say I'm familiar with the area myself.
Where do you mean?Used to have football pitches marked out and goals, but nothing there at the moment. Not used for anything as far as I'm aware.
CV3 2ED called Binley Recreation Ground, off Grange Ave.Where do you mean?
Oh yeah. Played on that myself in the past. Think it's council land but then might have a covenant itself as a recreation ground.CV3 2ED called Binley Recreation Ground, off Grange Ave.
Used to have football pitches marked out and goals, but nothing there at the moment. Not used for anything as far as I'm aware.
Is that the ground behind Binley.WMC.?
The grounds behind Binley WMC. They were CCC owned and being above the "Pit" always had fantastic drainage. Would make an ideal plot for a Stadium but as I remember it, wouldn't be any good for access to or from. Railway lines more or less circumnavigate the pitches.
Right by the A46 though isn't it? An access road potentially could be pretty simple.
There are two pitches on the Binley Rec I agree with SBK mind, the access is awkward and with it being an out of town site, it would need some parking (although perhaps that could be on the site south of the railway line). Either way, it'd be a massive cost to develop, building bridges over the WCML would be expensive especially if it meant having to close the line for periods.
There are two pitches on the Binley Rec I agree with SBK mind, the access is awkward and with it being an out of town site, it would need some parking (although perhaps that could be on the site south of the railway line). Either way, it'd be a massive cost to develop, building bridges over the WCML would be expensive especially if it meant having to close the line for periods.
They could build a tunnel like at Tollbar. It wouldn't take long..
They could build a tunnel like at Tollbar. It wouldn't take long..
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