SkyblueBazza
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Whilst Teresa Dis-May would pour boiling hot tea down anyone within reach & pinch their wallet/purse while they were being tended to
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Whilst Teresa Dis-May would pour boiling hot tea down anyone within reach & pinch their wallet/purse while they were being tended toJeremy would make a nice Minister of Tea and Sympathy.
So she hid...which is kinda the point really.There is no comparison between Princess Diana and Theresa May. There was a hate campaign initiated against the Tories almost immediately after the appalling tragedy hence possibly the reason that T May did not visit, It had been suggested that some people were using the tragedy for political reasons.
Regards.
Well that's two more things than anyone will ever get from a Tory!Jeremy would make a nice Minister of Tea and Sympathy.
Wasn't that exactly how Blair started out, presenting a succession of popular soundbites that appealed to the broad electorate in opposition to an increasingly unpopular Conservative administration? Eventually though, the socialist utopia - even the Tory lite version - runs out of money.
Not sure of Corbyn's ulterior motives but think it's time to ditch the first past the post system in favour of some form of proportional representation, if nothing else to better protect us from the extremes of both left and right.
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Not sure of Corbyn's ulterior motives
I've just heard this job was never signed off by the building owners, which unsurprisingly is the local council.
I've seen and disbelieved the cover-up stories, but this is most definitely one. Why would you spend £10mill and not sign it off? I can't imagine it's the building management company that fronted the money?
I've just heard this job was never signed off by the building owners, which unsurprisingly is the local council.
I've seen and disbelieved the cover-up stories, but this is most definitely one. Why would you spend £10mill and not sign it off? I can't imagine it's the building management company that fronted the money?
It isn'tCertain ministers have been saying that cladding or insulation is illegal within the UK.
Contractors cutting corners to save money instead of lives, but hey let's blame the Tories and in particular May as that's popular right now and I'll get lots of likes for doing so. It must be her fault, in fact she's responsible for everything that is bad and nothing that is good.
Just been said on SKY.It isn't
Just been said on SKY.
Has class O fire safety on surface spread
which I believe relates to protective coatings, but if it is not inert to begin with is pretty useless.
In the same Newsnight peice last night certain LA's have sent samples to the Govt for testing, suggesting that they're unsure of what's been installed on their buildings.I'm sure the enquiry will commission some tests on the cladding used & similar products.
If the manufacturers are found to have have falsified their claims for the product then they deserve everything that comes to them.
Just been said on SKY.
Has class O fire safety on surface spread
which I believe relates to protective coatings, but if it is not inert to begin with is pretty useless.
Ok richThe Insulation has class 0 rating so meets required fire ratings. The cladding does not which is why it's illegal in foreign countries as reported. The cladding is not illegal as it's not required to have a fire rating.
Is my understanding.
Ok rich
It's a minefield and I'm behind the curve
Fire industry leaders have said it's illegal in regulations but is passed with certain ammendments.
So although the Cladding used is not Fire Resistant it is class 0.
PE cladding and fire ratings - what does it all mean?
Lets start with the British results, to BS (British Standard) 476 part 6 &7. As you can see, and similar to the ASTM results on the first data sheet, both the PE and FR material have achieved ‘class 0’. What does that mean – in essence, it means it passes. The test is performed as shown in the diagram below (thanks again Bayer!)
The ‘cladding tile’ is the specimen. It is placed in a holder and subjected to 20 mins of burning from a gas burner, with electric heaters also heating the surface. Go back to our diagram of the cladding tile and see if you can work out why the PE tile passes in the same way the FR one does…
If you haven’t picked up the problem yet, don’t worry, because the German results are very telling. In Germany, the tiles are tested to DIN 4102, and as you can see this time the PE and the FR tiles have DIFFERENT results. PE has been rated as ‘B2’ whereas FR has been rated as ‘B1’. If you have made it this far you really want to know what this means, and once again I can refer to the helpful guide from Bayer for guidance.
I've seen a test on the material and it goes up like a match. No way are those test results legit.Looks to me like BS476 is wholly inappropriate for an external application.
They had a chap on the TV from the manufacturers in the States who expressed shock that it was used in the UK as its not allowed in most other places, including the US.If the manufacturers are found to have have falsified their claims for the product then they deserve everything that comes to them.
That's horrid isn't itThe Insulation has class 0 rating so meets required fire ratings. The cladding does not which is why it's illegal in foreign countries as reported. The cladding is not illegal as it's not required to have a fire rating.
Is my understanding.
Don't disagree, during the election and since he has been a very good front man, striking a chord i think with your average man in the street. Just hope he doesn't end up the same way as Blair.It is entirely possible that there may be some MP's that don't have ulterior motives. You can understand the cynicism however.
Contractors cutting corners to save money instead of lives, but hey let's blame the Tories and in particular May as that's popular right now and I'll get lots of likes for doing so. It must be her fault, in fact she's responsible for everything that is bad and nothing that is good.
She's certainly responsible for a large portion of the mess we're currently in that's for sure. Or do you think she's doing a good job?
You can guess I'm not in favour of her overallShe's certainly responsible for a large portion of the mess we're currently in that's for sure. Or do you think she's doing a good job?
You can guess I'm not in favour of her overallwhisper it however, but I feel a bit sorry for her over this particular incident. Any legislation would have been before she took over, as was the actual renovation. As for her visit then I can see why it's more important to try and put a plan in place rather than meet the residents.
Now... that doesn't stop me wanting a different government that will acknowledge the need for proper social housing etc., and it doesn't stop me thinking she had a shocking election campaign. On this issue, however, on a personal level, I kind of think she's been hung out to dry a bit.
Don't disagree, during the election and since he has been a very good front man, striking a chord i think with your average man in the street. Just hope he doesn't end up the same way as Blair.
If the manufacturers are found to have have falsified their claims for the product then they deserve everything that comes to them.
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