Loyalty Point Bands (7 Viewers)

[Tommo1993]

Wouldn’t say an awful lot will buy without intention of attending, I think some people play it by ear. But certainly more than enough people do it. Very cuntish, the worst player of this game.

 

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[torchomatic]

What's been the highest points allocation requirement this season? Oxford at 1700?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

What's been the highest points allocation requirement this season? Oxford at 1700?

Luton and Plymouth will probably beat that points requirement if we’re in the playoffs.

 

[torchomatic]

Luton and Plymouth will probably beat that points requirement if we’re in the playoffs.

Yes, I should think so. 1800 probably. I have no issue with that. Loyalty should be rewarded.

EDIT: can't do Plymouth but will be doing Hull and Luton.

 

[Jay88]

What's been the highest points allocation requirement this season? Oxford at 1700?

Oxford sold out about 10 minutes into the 1600 points slot

 

[Marty]

Wouldn’t say an awful lot will buy without intention of attending, I think some people play it by ear. But certainly more than enough people do it. Very cuntish, the worst player of this game.

I bet it's barely double figures doing this, those that could get the tickets with high points tally from the start would have been attending all the games anyway.

Like someone else said, it's the same faces every week at the away games.

 

[torchomatic]

Oxford sold out about 10 minutes into the 1600 points slot

It started at 1700 though, didn't it? I got ours not long after they went on sale at ten.

 

[torchomatic]

I bet it's barely double figures doing this, those that could get the tickets with high points tally from the start would have been attending all the games anyway.

Like someone else said, it's the same faces every week at the away games.

I can't see the point as the only reward for getting points is being able to get away tickets. Why get away tickets for the points and then sell the tickets on? Makes no sense.

 

[Tommo1993]

I bet it's barely double figures doing this, those that could get the tickets with high points tally from the start would have been attending all the games anyway.

Like someone else said, it's the same faces every week at the away games.

Barely double figures is more than enough. 1 is more than enough. Also, nobody knows the same 2000 odd faces.

 

[Cov4life]

I can't see the point as the only reward for getting points is being able to get away tickets. Why get away tickets for the points and then sell the tickets on? Makes no sense.

It’s pretty simple really. It’s a way of not having to attend and still collect points so they have first dibs for games like the quarter final at wolves. I wonder why people want to be in the highest points tariff?

 

[torchomatic]

It’s pretty simple really. It’s a way of not having to attend and still collect points so they have first dibs for games like the quarter final at wolves. I wonder why people want to be in the highest points tariff?

Maybe so, but it's a risk. No one knew we would progress that far or get to Wembley again. Seems a lot of hassle for something that probably won't happen.

 

[Marty]

It’s pretty simple really. It’s a way of not having to attend and still collect points so they have first dibs for games like the quarter final at wolves. I wonder why people want to be in the highest points tariff?

For these people to be in the top bracket initially they needed to put the time and effort in before the points scheme even started. Plenty of away games reach a low points tally or general sale.

As someone who does 10-15 away games a season, I know I'm going to miss out on the smallest allocations.

 

[CV22SBA]

It’s pretty simple really. It’s a way of not having to attend and still collect points so they have first dibs for games like the quarter final at wolves. I wonder why people want to be in the highest points tariff?

Wolves was our first quarter-final since 2008. People are not collecting points in the hope of a one of chance against a big club every 15 years.

8 people in my network. 6 of us over 2K points now and the other 2 over 1.9K. We all went to away games in L2. If you went in L2 you are now not collecting points to sell your ticket in the Championship.

 

[torchomatic]

For these people to be in the top bracket initially they needed to put the time and effort in before the points scheme even started. Plenty of away games reach a low points tally or general sale.

As someone who does 10-15 away games a season, I know I'm going to miss out on the smallest allocations.

We do around 18/19/20 a season. Never missed out yet.

There are few we like to do or we'll do if my son has not been to a ground before, but we can be choosy.

We're doing Sheffield United and then probably Hull and Luton. Cant face the M5 on a bank holiday so will watch Plymouth on the tele. We went down there last February for our game.

 

[Tommo1993]

We do a out 18/19/20 a season. Never missed out yet.

There are few we Luke to do or we'll do if my son has not been to a ground before, but we can be choosy.

We're doing Sheffield United and then probably Hull and Luton. Cant face the M5 on a bank holiday so will watch Plymouth on the tele. We went down there last February for our game.

I’d have done Plymouth if it was the Friday instead. Definitely not monday!

 

[Cov4life]

For these people to be in the top bracket initially they needed to put the time and effort in before the points scheme even started. Plenty of away games reach a low points tally or general sale.

As someone who does 10-15 away games a season, I know I'm going to miss out on the smallest allocations.

You’re basically saying because they went to games in the past they are entitled to buy tickets to sell for points. I’m not getting into it any further with you, I’m saying it happens, end of.

 

[Cov4life]

Wolves was our first quarter-final since 2008. People are not collecting points in the hope of a one of chance against a big club every 15 years.

8 people in my network. 6 of us over 2K points now and the other 2 over 1.9K. We all went to away games in L2. If you went in L2 you are now not collecting points to sell your ticket in the Championship.

What are you going on about, wolves was a game with a small allocation, like a lot of the away days we get in the championship that are sold out before filtering down to the lower points tariffs.

 

[Alex1987]

What are you going on about, wolves was a game with a small allocation, like a lot of the away days we get in the championship that are sold out before filtering down to the lower points tariffs.

Haven't something like 16/20 made it to STHs this season. Believe only Stoke, Watford, Derby, Sheff U have required anything over 500 points? Think someone was keeping track somewhere

 

[Macca1987]

Four of us get most away tickets, I would never think of getting one to sell on and collect the points. If I can't make a match I don't get a ticket

 

[CV22SBA]

What are you going on about, wolves was a game with a small allocation, like a lot of the away days we get in the championship that are sold out before filtering down to the lower points tariffs.

WTF are you going on about. You think 4,812 is a small allocation at Wolves?
We also don't sell-out "a lot" of away games let alone at people with max points. Apart from Oxford, Derby & Sheff Utd if you wanted a ticket you could get one.

 

[tskezz]

For these people to be in the top bracket initially they needed to put the time and effort in before the points scheme even started. Plenty of away games reach a low points tally or general sale.

As someone who does 10-15 away games a season, I know I'm going to miss out on the smallest allocations.

If you do 10-15 away games a season (assuming you havnt just started doing that) you'll be fine for every game. I do around that and im never anywhere near the cutoff for tickets.

 

[Marty]

If you do 10-15 away games a season (assuming you havnt just started doing that) you'll be fine for every game. I do around that and im never anywhere near the cutoff for tickets.

I've been doing the away games for years, I'm on 1690 points. I believe Oxford was 1700 initially before dropping down to 1600? Next away game I attend should tip me over into the top percentage bracket. Hoping for Plymouth tickets.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Maybe so, but it's a risk. No one knew we would progress that far or get to Wembley again. Seems a lot of hassle for something that probably won't happen.

Yeah - I think there's a bit of an urban myth about the extent of it.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

It’s pretty simple really. It’s a way of not having to attend and still collect points so they have first dibs for games like the quarter final at wolves. I wonder why people want to be in the highest points tariff?

That only works when games are sell outs and most of our games went to general sale. It only works when you’re selling when demand exceeds the supply. Given that we haven’t sold out every away game, the demand hasn’t always been there so no idea how this cabal of elite members are selling tickets to people who can just buy one using their own account and collecting points.

I’ve had to rely on a mate for one away game this season (Watford) and have asked a friend to sort me out for Plymouth and Luton because I know it won’t get to 1400+.

Anything above 1200 and you’re more or less guaranteed to get a ticket for any allocation of 2,000+ for most of the season. So for the people complaining about availability now, if you’d done the cup games, the midweek aways and got your STs, you’d be getting tickets to the big games.

 

[Cov4life]

That only works when games are sell outs and most of our games went to general sale. It only works when you’re selling when demand exceeds the supply. Given that we haven’t sold out every away game, the demand hasn’t always been there so no idea how this cabal of elite members are selling tickets to people who can just buy one using their own account and collecting points.

I’ve had to rely on a mate for one away game this season (Watford) and have asked a friend to sort me out for Plymouth and Luton because I know it won’t get to 1400+.

Anything above 1200 and you’re more or less guaranteed to get a ticket for any allocation of 2,000+ for most of the season. So for the people complaining about availability now, if you’d done the cup games, the midweek aways and got your STs, you’d be getting tickets to the big games.

Before you dismiss my observation it would be helpful if you actually saw it first hand, ask around and you’ll get invited into the WhatsApp group. I don’t know why you all keep mentioning tickets went on general sale as if the club don’t use the points system before going to general sale, it’s just a lazy argument. They’ll have been people buying tickets from fans without knowing it’ll have gone to general sale at some point.

You’ve mentioned you’re getting tickets from your mate, that’s just another example of this happening where tickets are going to the wrong people. I’m not saying you don’t deserve to go, what I’m saying is this is another example of people jumping the queue. I would suggest this happens every week, so it would be fair to say when the club release the tickets to the top points tariff at first, theres a percentage that are being used by others the points holder knows, which backs up my argument all along. This may not be intentional ‘buying to sell for points’ , but the points holder is profiting without having to attend which is why they’re doing it.

 

[CV22SBA]

I've been doing the away games for years, I'm on 1690 points. I believe Oxford was 1700 initially before dropping down to 1600? Next away game I attend should tip me over into the top percentage bracket. Hoping for Plymouth tickets.

I think Plymouth will be 1800 pts & Luton will be 1900 being the last away game of the season more people will have collected points by that time.

Plymouth allocation 1.7K.
Luton allocation 1.3K

 

[CV22SBA]

Before you dismiss my observation it would be helpful if you actually saw it first hand, ask around and you’ll get invited into the WhatsApp group. I don’t know why you all keep mentioning tickets went on general sale as if the club don’t use the points system before going to general sale, it’s just a lazy argument. They’ll have been people buying tickets from fans without knowing it’ll have gone to general sale at some point.

You’ve mentioned you’re getting tickets from your mate, that’s just another example of this happening where tickets are going to the wrong people. I’m not saying you don’t deserve to go, what I’m saying is this is another example of people jumping the queue. I would suggest this happens every week, so it would be fair to say when the club release the tickets to the top points tariff at first, theres a percentage that are being used by others the points holder knows, which backs up my argument all along. This may not be intentional ‘buying to sell for points’ , but the points holder is profiting without having to attend which is why they’re doing it.

The point people are trying to make is that its not the high bracket points holders doing this its perhaps the middle range points people. Most games are not selling out until people jump on the band wagon the last few weeks. The test will be Luton, only high bracket members will get a ticket so see if they are forsale in the whatsapp group.

 

[JAM See]

That only works when games are sell outs and most of our games went to general sale. It only works when you’re selling when demand exceeds the supply. Given that we haven’t sold out every away game, the demand hasn’t always been there so no idea how this cabal of elite members are selling tickets to people who can just buy one using their own account and collecting points.

I’ve had to rely on a mate for one away game this season (Watford) and have asked a friend to sort me out for Plymouth and Luton because I know it won’t get to 1400+.

Anything above 1200 and you’re more or less guaranteed to get a ticket for any allocation of 2,000+ for most of the season. So for the people complaining about availability now, if you’d done the cup games, the midweek aways and got your STs, you’d be getting tickets to the big games.

I think there is an element of FOMO about it.

I have first hand experience of somebody who couldn't make a game (might have been Bristol), who allowed someone else in their network to use their points.

Turned out that that the person who used their mate's points would have qualified anyway. That's a twenty point swing.

No idea how to stop it though.

Edit: Hull will go to less than 1000 points, I'm convinced of it.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Before you dismiss my observation it would be helpful if you actually saw it first hand, ask around and you’ll get invited into the WhatsApp group. I don’t know why you all keep mentioning tickets went on general sale as if the club don’t use the points system before going to general sale, it’s just a lazy argument. They’ll have been people buying tickets from fans without knowing it’ll have gone to general sale at some point.

You’ve mentioned you’re getting tickets from your mate, that’s just another example of this happening where tickets are going to the wrong people. I’m not saying you don’t deserve to go, what I’m saying is this is another example of people jumping the queue. I would suggest this happens every week, so it would be fair to say when the club release the tickets to the top points tariff at first, theres a percentage that are being used by others the points holder knows, which backs up my argument all along. This may not be intentional ‘buying to sell for points’ , but the points holder is profiting without having to attend which is why they’re doing it.

I don’t deny that it doesn’t happen. I’m deeply sceptical of the scale of it. My central point is that most people can get tickets to games because they go to general sale. The highest points bracket has been 1700+ so it’s not like the super pointers get extra benefit being 200-300 points over that.

So the idea of it being a closed shop is a nonsense if people went regularly this season, they’d have picked up 200+ points on league away games alone, then there’s the cup matches which has boosted my points tally by 90 points. All in all, I believe I started the season on 1,070 and now on 1400+.

If people only want to bother for the last 4 away games, they can’t really complain that they don’t have the points to go to the most oversubscribed games of the season.

 

[Flying Fokker]

That only works when games are sell outs and most of our games went to general sale. It only works when you’re selling when demand exceeds the supply. Given that we haven’t sold out every away game, the demand hasn’t always been there so no idea how this cabal of elite members are selling tickets to people who can just buy one using their own account and collecting points.

I’ve had to rely on a mate for one away game this season (Watford) and have asked a friend to sort me out for Plymouth and Luton because I know it won’t get to 1400+.

Anything above 1200 and you’re more or less guaranteed to get a ticket for any allocation of 2,000+ for most of the season. So for the people complaining about availability now, if you’d done the cup games, the midweek aways and got your STs, you’d be getting tickets to the big games.

Providing you’ve had a season ticket for 4 or more years. I think the points system is fair. The caveat being that there is always a bias and the gap will get bigger.