lifeskyblue
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Allitt certainly spent first few years of her sentence in Special Hospital Rampton. Not sure if she still there or moved to a prison
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Death penalty is too easy for lifers. I’d rather they rot in a cell with the constant worry someone is gonna put a pencil in their eye socket.
I know you will always get psychopaths but I think the great failure of modern society is that we don’t feel out children are safe. Wherever i go with young kids is a constant worry they are gonna get snatched or something as know one knows who anyone is anymore, there is no community where everyone looks out for each other as people are so transient. I think the world we live in today is completely fucked up to be honest.
Disagree, kids don’t hang around and play out at a young age like we used to with neighbours looking out for you. They don’t because it’s not safe to do so. I can remember playing out till dark at junior school ago on my own. Kids can’t do that now.I don't think it's any worse now than its ever been.
Children murdered by strangers is a rare occurrence in this country but I think we get far more of an insight into these cases now which can be quite unsettling. .
The report I was listening to on the way home was very in depth and a hard listen.
An expert on Midlands today was suggesting that it was the drama of trying to save them that she craved, tragic for the parentsHas it come out she was psycho? Or got off on mass murder?
Yeah, read the old press reports and it's shocking. Less prison time for killing your child than stealing a chicken. One man got six months for kicking his infant son in the head to death - his defence was he was aiming for his wife and missed!I don't think it's any worse now than its ever been.
Children murdered by strangers is a rare occurrence in this country but I think we get far more of an insight into these cases now which can be quite unsettling. .
The report I was listening to on the way home was very in depth and a hard listen.
Its so hard to get your head round you're almost hoping for something else to come out, something that would explain it as anything but the horrific thing it isAn expert on Midlands today was suggesting that it was the drama of trying to save them that she craved, tragic for the parents
What’s that nw?Yeah, read the old press reports and it's shocking. Less prison time for killing your child than stealing a chicken. One man got six months for kicking his infant son in the head to death - his defence was he was aiming for his wife and missed!
What do you mean what is it? It's an old press report of a crime as detailed!What’s that nw?
Ok. Didn’t mean to make you cross. from the uk? Recently??What do you mean what is it? It's an old press report of a crime as detailed!
Fucking hellAn expert on Midlands today was suggesting that it was the drama of trying to save them that she craved, tragic for the parents
Agreed and she won’t I’m sure ever be released
It’s not about reformed though it’s that it’s a fact that all but 70 will be released at some point. We can’t safely run prisons now
It’s so tough to read the evidence and do what the Scandinavians did in the 90’s. I fear populism will make it impossible to do what works for us all
Disagree, kids don’t hang around and play out at a young age like we used to with neighbours looking out for you. They don’t because it’s not safe to do so. I can remember playing out till dark at junior school ago on my own. Kids can’t do that now.
Or do kids not play out because parents are worried and don't let them?Disagree, kids don’t hang around and play out at a young age like we used to with neighbours looking out for you. They don’t because it’s not safe to do so. I can remember playing out till dark at junior school ago on my own. Kids can’t do that now.
Im not sure what you mean by what the Scandinavians did?
Rehabilitation Lessons from Norway's Prison System
Today, Norway's prison system has become a model for the rest of the world, and some states in the U.S. are following Norway’s lead.www.firststepalliance.org
If you have time I’d love your opinion on criminal by Alison Kirwan
Can you link for me please?yet they have a higher homicide rate compared to other countries with far more penal legislation.
They have one of the lowest rates in the world, considerably below ours and most countries with repressive regimes.yet they have a higher homicide rate compared to other countries with far more penal legislation.
There’s got to be some criminal sanctionGenuinely just harrowing, had to switch off the news
There needs to be some sort of punishment for the two directors of the hospital who were constantly being alerted that something fishy was going on but chose to threaten whistleblowers with the sack instead of investigating properly
I visited Rampton a few times for work several years ago. Odd place, especially when, if a prisoner was walking past, my escort would say “stand out the way in the corner and don’t make eye contact”.Allitt certainly spent first few years of her sentence in Special Hospital Rampton. Not sure if she still there or moved to a prison
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As disturbing as that is it makes some sense. If she had some mental issue making her devoid of empathy perhaps she became addicted to the adrenaline rush and sense of being needed.An expert on Midlands today was suggesting that it was the drama of trying to save them that she craved, tragic for the parents
Good old Dr Shola
Let’s milk a tragedy and use it to promote my “every white person is a racist” agenda
Same as the fire-fighter who deliberately starts a fire so they can get the rush to be involved in the drama.As disturbing as that is it makes some sense. If she had some mental issue making her devoid of empathy perhaps she became addicted to the adrenaline rush and sense of being needed.
They have one of the lowest rates in the world, considerably below ours and most countries with repressive regimes.
Btw I would be interested in your view of the El Salvador approach.
Sure I watched something about a nurse in America doing that too.As disturbing as that is it makes some sense. If she had some mental issue making her devoid of empathy perhaps she became addicted to the adrenaline rush and sense of being needed.
Yep really unhelpfulGood old Dr Shola
Let’s milk a tragedy and use it to promote my “every white person is a racist” agenda
Was talking to someone yesterday who used to be a deputy prison governor and now ordained and we were saying it’s completely thrown our compass. Life compass not moral compassAs disturbing as that is it makes some sense. If she had some mental issue making her devoid of empathy perhaps she became addicted to the adrenaline rush and sense of being needed.
I agreeVery good piece
What I learned about Lucy Letby after 10 months in court - BBC News
The nurse was questioned for nearly 60 hours - the BBC's Judith Moritz watched it all.www.bbc.co.uk
The answer is to stop imprisoning people for relatively petty crimes not to release very dangerous peopleAgreed and she won’t I’m sure ever be released
It’s not about reformed though it’s that it’s a fact that all but 70 will be released at some point. We can’t safely run prisons now
It’s so tough to read the evidence and do what the Scandinavians did in the 90’s. I fear populism will make it impossible to do what works for us all
The answer is to stop imprisoning people for relatively petty crimes not to release very dangerous peopleAgreed and she won’t I’m sure ever be released
It’s not about reformed though it’s that it’s a fact that all but 70 will be released at some point. We can’t safely run prisons now
It’s so tough to read the evidence and do what the Scandinavians did in the 90’s. I fear populism will make it impossible to do what works for us all
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