we did sing you support you support.... you support a murderer!!
saying that i seen Luke's dad at the game. must have been horrible for him. being a massive city fan too
same will happen to ched evans. once he carries on playing, the public outcry will fizzle away
He was convicted of causing death by dangerous driving. Not murder. Not condoning it in anyway but why do people choose to ignore facts.
Side note Marlon King wasn't a rapist.
He still killed two people did he not?? So the technical term might not be murder but he still killed two people.
Missing the point of the thread....
I haven't missed the point of the thread I'm just not interested in it when it has basic mistakes in it.
i had no idea he was playing. scum bag
much worse than ched evans
He had been to a party and although had stopped drinking a few hours before he drove he had not slept and was over the limit.We all drive cars, or most of us do and anytime we do something can happen that could change our lives forever, driving whilst on a mobile for example should you be in a fatal while doing that you are likely to get sent down, how many do we see doing that, loads everyday. I think that is what McCormick was doing, can't remember if he had been drinking or not. He got 7 years which is a fair old stretch but of course doesn't bring the victims back. Again I ask where do we draw the line.
twice over the limit is three pints of Stella or two double spirits or a large glass and a half of 14% wine. Pretty certain he had drunk far more than that because he didn't get in the car straight away but again its scale of offence. He got 7 years at a time when the maximum was 10...now its 15 and rightly so.Well if he was twice over the limit he was lucky to get only 7 years
Yes they were heading back up the M6 when he ran into the back of their car pushing it off the motorway (I think it was precluded he had fell asleep but it could not be proved)Wait, the father isn't a Cov fan. They were from Manchester weren't they?
Guilty in a court of law and a custodial sentence has been served for his crime. Now he is a free man again as you and I are and should be fully entitled to make a living. Period.
You don't have to like the man, support the man or agree with the man but you must respect the laws of the land.
Personal indifference has no place in this argument. That's why we have laws and a due process.
But its not as cut and dried as that in reality is it? Although the outcome was worse in the LM case, the CE case was an act of aggression/abuse while the LM case was a consequence of illegal irresponsibility but not malice. People will interpret things emotionally, not via a law book.
I'm afraid it is that cut and dried yes. Abide by the laws of state not make up your own moral high ground. If you did that we would have chaos.
Got done myself for drink driving a few years ago, had a bit of a drink problem at the time,bit of a drinking culture at work too,used to finish work,straight down the pub, have an absolute skinfull, then drive home.
Did it for years, and got away with it for years too, just lucky that never hurt or killed anybody.
Pulled over 5 minutes from home one Friday night, because had turned an extra notch on my lights and had my fog lights on, as soon as the blue lights came on behind me, knew I was a gonner.
18 month ban, and £600 quid fine, had 68, just under twice over the limit, which was a surprise as must have had 7 or 8 pints of 1664 that night.
Did a Drink Driving Awareness Course, to knock 3 months off my ban, and that was an eye-opener!
The limit is 5 units at the moment, a pemium lager(Stella, 1664, Peroni etc, 5%) is 3 units.
You lose one unit per hour, so you don't need many to be over.
Apparently metabolism, build, etc, dosn't make a difference to the reading, just maybe the ability to "handle" the alcohol, I used to be able to drink a lot without noticeably feeling any effects, but don't let being "able to handle your beer", fool you into thinking you're okay, because you're not.
Had to list how much we would drink in an average week, and scarily i was doing 240 units a week, and barely drank at weekends, ended up in intensive care for a week in Majorca with acute pancreatitis due to it, about an hour away from dying apprently, had the same symptoms as a heart attack.
Luckily a good doctor treated the correct symptoms, and i survived to annoy people on CCFC websites.
With people like McCormick, feel "There but for the Grace of God", feel terribly for the victims family, and don't really know what I would have done if It had been me in the same situation.
That is remarkably honest and open of you Lord, especially considering some of the vitriol in other posts.
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