So every single person you know that has drank alcohol then driven a car, and let's be honest we all know someone that does it or has done it, is worse than a rapist?
There is no excuse for drink driving. At all. Anyone that does it runs the risk of killing someone.
But a cheeky bit of rape? Fill your boots lad.
the reason i said hes worse than ched is because from reading reports on that case it dont look like he actually did it.[/QUOTE said:Really? I keep hearing this and don't get it. I listened to his girlfriend on 5Live one day and thought I'd have a read of his website which to me despite being obviously heavily biased in his favour convinced me of his guilt. The site itself states that the first time he saw the girl she was collapsed on the floor of a takeaway. Maybe I have a higher so called 'moral code' than others but if I saw a girl on the floor of takeaway I'd quite quickly conclude she was in no shape to consent to sex.
Really? I keep hearing this and don't get it. I listened to his girlfriend on 5Live one day and thought I'd have a read of his website which to me despite being obviously heavily biased in his favour convinced me of his guilt. The site itself states that the first time he saw the girl she was collapsed on the floor of a takeaway. Maybe I have a higher so called 'moral code' than others but if I saw a girl on the floor of takeaway I'd quite quickly conclude she was in no shape to consent to sex.
I don't get why there's been so much publicity over the Evans case though when surely McCormicks is worse??
SEE Jessica Ennis has asked for her name to be removed from the Stand @ the stadium should he be Signed up.
You should never have punishmenr without the chance to reform. But the starting point for reform is recognise your mistake, sincerely apologise to your victim and then be seen to actively do some good to help society.
Not just return to being an overpaid spoilt footballer.
I've now read extensively on the case and frankly there seems a miscarriage of justice here. I'm not surprised he has seen fit to appeal and until such time that is heard refuses to bow down and do as people ask. Would you if you did not rape the girl?
Yes ex cons deserve a chance once they've done their time (in some cases it's briefer than it should be) but if Ched Evans, Marlon King, etc wanted to be a director/owner of a club the O&D test from the Football League would prevent them from doing so IIRC. Why are they allowed to continue as players?
Because players aren't directors or owners, and these tests are mainly aimed at the financial side of things. The main owner of Blackpool is a convicted rapist.
Correct. He owns 80% of the club and was convicted of raping a 16 year old. He and his son are now doing the same to the club.
An outrage.
I've now read extensively on the case and frankly there seems a miscarriage of justice here. I'm not surprised he has seen fit to appeal and until such time that is heard refuses to bow down and do as people ask. Would you if you did not rape the girl?
I wonder how many rapes or sexual offences could be avoided if prostitution was legalised?
I add this comment with no preconceived views on Evan's conviction or plea.
You're presuming that women are prostitutes of their own free will and even if they are (which I doubt) it's morally wrong and a measure of what such men that use them think of women. I wouldn't be at all surprised that if the vast majority of convicted rapist also have a history of using prostitutes.
This thread really is idiotic in the extremes.
Really annoys me the sentiment of this thread. He made a huge mistake, pleaded guilty, served his time in prison, came out and didn't seek publicity but showed remorse and yet he's still discussed as a murderer. Oh well so long as the person who started this thread is perfect and hasn't ever made a mistake
You are absolutely correct. Many prostitutes are certainly not doing the job because they love it, they do it because they have to. However, that's an entirely different thread and discussion, and you are wrong to presume that I thought they all did it because they want to.
And thanks for agreeing with me. when you say the vast majority of convicted rapists also have a history of using prostitutes.
That's the exact reason why I asked if legalisation would make these 'rapists' consumers in a legal framework.
I've now read extensively on the case and frankly there seems a miscarriage of justice here. I'm not surprised he has seen fit to appeal and until such time that is heard refuses to bow down and do as people ask. Would you if you did not rape the girl?
Back to the original post of the thread. We have family in Cambridge and visited them in August. I took in the Cambridge v Plymouth first game of the season. And McCormick had big time from the Newmarket Road End non stop.Just wondering if McCormick got any stick last night at the game?
Interesting to see all the stuff about Ched Evans in the press yesterday yet someone responsible for murder has seemingly slipped back into professional football without as much fanfare...
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Really annoys me the sentiment of this thread. He made a huge mistake, pleaded guilty, served his time in prison, came out and didn't seek publicity but showed remorse and yet he's still discussed as a murderer. Oh well so long as the person who started this thread is perfect and hasn't ever made a mistake
Agree the use of the word murderer was a little strong. And yes, we've all made mistakes. I forgot to get milk on our Tesco delivery last night and my wife wasn't happy. Never drank myself stupid and killed two kids though.
Yes it was a little strong... because he's not. I noticed Torch that you liked Lord's post earlier in this thread, that's how close many people come to making a catastrophic error of judgement. Was there any malice? Any evil? No, and no amount of inflammatory language will make it so
I "liked" it because it was a brave thing to admit. I didn't "like" the fact he'd did it. I've never done it, never been close to doing it. Anyone who does do it is stupid and those who kill people, like McCormick, are absolute scum.
Just so we're clear Torch.... Is anyone that has ever drank and driven 'scum', or just those that have hit someone? Your post suggest that the former are 'stupid' and the latter are 'scum', is that right?
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