Nick
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they will win the JR and turn the council house into a retro indoor training centre.*
*I dont think this will happen, just to clarify.
Got to have the facilities for the Academy though it isn't just about the players. For instance Category 2 requires indoor training facilities. As I understood it the indoor facilities at the Higgs were worn out and needed replacing. Has that been settled, have we the finances to settle it if needed. Lose the Cat 2 we lose a chunk of funding and the spiral down continues
TM knows his back was to the wall and had to shore up the defence and the only way he was getting what he wanted ( a big fuck off defender with premiership skills) he had to pay the wages they command and i think the sacrifice of Maddison was to achieve that goal. If you are like me I have been worried about our ability to defend in the last 6 games and it is getting worse. TM has been down this route before as Middlesborough fell away after Xmas and he could'nt get the players he wanted. If TM keeps us in the play off position to the season end then it justifys the meansWhat is the silly money that allowed this then. As if it wasn't agreed by Mowbray I see him walking. He doesn't need this nonsense we are used to. If Mowbray defends the deal, there's more to it than we can see now
Mowbray will be off. No way can he work properly with people like Sisu!
Surprised that this has happened now. Thought it would happen in the summer...... but not to Norwich.
If it is £2m, then for a young lad who as yet has proven very little in L1 let alone higher, is a decent valuation. Comparing it to say Deli Ali is a bit of a stretch to be honest, that was £5m for a player of same age that had played 100 or so first team games and had influenced the results in a bigger percentage of games than Maddison. To expect £7m for Maddison right now or even in the summer is frankly fantasy in my opinion. He may become worth that but he isn't now. Yes he has potential but no real track record
There may of course be add ons so the overall fee might be bigger assuming he succeeds at Norwich. Transfer fees are usually staggered payments so the financial effect will be spread too. Unlikely there will be a big upfront payment I would think. Say it is £2m in value then in current circumstances TM gets 60% added to his budget at the time that each payment is made so that 1.2m increase in budget could/would be spread over two years or something like. However part of the value will include the value of the loan - its cost, so that reduces the budget available. Is that loan valued at his new wages, the old wages or some other figure
A club like Norwich probably does give Maddison a better opportunity to play in the first team than say Spurs or Liverpool so for him it is a better option probably , and in any case he is still young and the opportunity to move is going to be there in the future. Certainly the worst it could be is the opportunity to definitely be playing in the Championship if he is good enough next season.
I find the comments of Anderson a little troubling. A sale of Maddison at a guessed at £2m secures the clubs future ...... really ? It is not exactly big numbers is it and it will be spread over probably two years. Just how many proven players have we got signed on past 30th June 2016?
Seemed to be rushed through but was it? TM clearly didn't want him to go. Listening to his after match comments on Saturday then there did seem to be something going on judging by his comments about transfers. I might be reading too much in to that but I did wonder at the time.
Can we now put to bed this idea that SISU are backing a promotion push with extra funds? Personally I still think SISU have drawn a line under the finance and said get on with it sink or swim........ but still retain the final decision on the sales/purchases (as you would expect)
Bottom line is nothing in the finances has really changed, we are still in a mess, we still rely on crowds turning up and player sales............. but therein lies the conundrum we need to sell to fund the team but in so doing lose our best talent, which in turn puts at risk any success on the pitch which in its turn affects the numbers through the gates. TM has a very tough job
Can't help feeling disappointed by this however ...... seems to be the usual feeling connected with CCFC
No, don't say that!! We will have a reverse meltdown!!The Observer tweeting that the fee was around £2.5M but will rise to £9.5M with clauses.
The Observer tweeting that the fee was around £2.5M but will rise to £9.5M with clauses.
The Observer tweeting that the fee was around £2.5M but will rise to £9.5M with clauses.
Looks like the telegraph have jumped on it, demanding CCFC reveal how much it was.
I like when they say that the club can't hide behind the confidentiality of the deal. I'd like to see the CT print something that has a gagging order on it.
hi everyone,
there are many threads on madders so i hope i have the correct one and i also havent read all of this tread so i dont know if this may have already been covered so i apologise in advance if im saying the same stuff that someone may have already said, but speaking as a fan and also a a sports lawyer i want to address a few things.
firstly for the fans that are annoying with the club or madderz for leaving. i wasnt around for the days where we were in the premiership and my life has been supporting the club through the championsip and now league one, and i think what people arent taking into consideration is that not only are we a selling club, but every team in our league is a selling club, if there assets have the right talent. its obvious that teams in the premiership operate at the highest level and can attract the spoils of every lower league club that at the moment in time cant offer the player what he is currently getting. and any lower club when hearing a view of £1m will take the bid into consideration. and you cant blame a club for accepting an offer of around £3m at least. regardless of who the player is, to rake in that much money as a league 1 club is good business.
secondly how can someone blame madderz or any football or sports player to leave a job when more money is offered, what needs to be realised is that the life span of a footballer is much lower than the reasonable person, if you ask the question to yourself, could you afford to give up work when you are around 35-40? obviously the level of football is much higher also, and every footballer wants to play at the best of their ability, and that is for most british player playing in the premier league, and its apparent to everyone that he has a much higher chance of doing that with norwich than coventry.
finally as to regard the price of the sale. many sources have indicated the transaction could range from £2m-£9.5. yet this is all speculation, there will be no way of telling how much money was earned on the transfer until maybe five years after the initial sale. this is because of contract clauses that as everyone in football knows can vary to many different things, the club may never confirm all the clauses that was set in the contract, what seems most likely and happened in the deli ali transfer with spurs, is that there will be an initial fee of around 20-40% of the Net Price. and add ons that could include payment in money instalments over the span of 2-5 years, and other clauses such as, appearances, goals, assists,international call up, POTW, POTM, POTY, team finishing position and so on. therefore it is impossible to claim that the club have 'sold him for cheap' or £2m is ridiculous.
sorry again if everything ive said has already been discussed
you cant blame a club for accepting an offer of around £3m at least. regardless of who the player is, to rake in that much money as a league 1 club is good business.
and you cant blame a club for accepting an offer of around £3m at least. regardless of who the player is, to rake in that much money as a league 1 club is good business.
he calls himself madders, and he is 19 so that ruins your theory. and also the £3m good business point was referring to a league one club. you must not understand football if you think that messi or someone with the football ability of messi would play in league one
that isnt true. yes the amount offered will be based on the quality of the player, but what league they are in is a seriously substantial part. refer me to a case where a league one team have turned down offers of over £5m. every league one team will be reluctant to accept bids in that region, like i said before for a league one club even a bid of £2m may be an offer that cant be refused. lets say the net sale was £5m. if he wasnt sold, when will be the next opportunity to make that much money? even promotion wont scratch the surface of that figure. football is a business and you must understand that
@Londonccfcfan @Evo1883 you're right mateI don't see us losing tempo, I think the bad run is more connected to turner getting injured and teams having watched the shelf utd gameplan of how to bully us out of games. Maddison imo is one of the most talented players we have seen at city. I rarely go overboard, in fact the reverse when there was hype on here over Connor Thomas, bigi, Gunnarson Dann and Fox. I genuinely believe this lad is special. If I'm honest I felt the same about Westwood who I thought would go on to be a great keeper and has done OK but been average realky, can't always get it right, but I see maddison going right to the top.
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