fernandopartridge
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Slightly galling that we're a feeder club for that bunch of utter simpletons.
Did say I was ITK regarding this move and he wan’t joining Tottenham. Am happy about this, but bet he turns out pantsSlightly galling that we're a feeder club for that bunch of utter simpletons.
Did say I was ITK regarding this move and he wan’t joining Tottenham. Am happy about this, but bet he turns out pants
Did anyone hear the sell on % was more than the usual 10-15. In fact it was more like 25%, hence the initial paltry fee and the fact that it was hailed as a fantastic longer term deal for the club.
Anywho Robins will be lucky if he sees 20% of the 20%
So naive. Sisu are just letting the club run itself and aren’t investing out of their own back pockets. It’s the same as it’s always been, except from the fact that better people are now running the club ie Boddy rather than Fisher.The signs are that the penny has dropped with the owners and they realise the manager and staff need to be backed to achieve the success they need before they can sell the club
What ever the total transfer fee adds up to for saints or the foxes, we get whatever percentage of that up front. Simple as that. No installments etc. It's up to Norwich to pay that amount to us.
As for Robins seeing any of that money, I doubt it. What it might do is Sisu say there is no need to sell any star players for next season.
I'm not sure how it works with sell on fees, assumed it would be staged in line with with the transfer fee, otherwise Norwich might have to pay their entire first installment to us. Like I say, I don't pretend to know exactly how these deals work.
As for Robins getting none of the money, not sure that has any basis. If they take the money out of the club that would have to show on the accounts and there has be little evidence of that over the last few seasons with transfer revenues received, it has all stayed in the club hasn't it? Again, happy to be corrected. Just wonder why you think it will happen this time.
It's like buying a house. It isn't our issue if Norwich have to give us all the money if that's what they get in a first instalment. That was deal they signed with Coventry.
The money I doubt very much will be available for
Players. More than likely money will go towards the academy and this new site they've found for a new training complex.
I assumed we get a % as and when he triggers things from his move to each club, so if Norwich get 100k for 10 appearances, we get a % of that 100k. If he gets a bigger move again, and Norwich have a sell on clause, lets say he goes for 50 mill up front fee (from Leicester to Man united), and Norwich have a 10% sell on clause, they get 5 mill, but then they'll owe us our % from that 5 million.
What ever the total transfer fee adds up to for saints or the foxes, we get whatever percentage of that up front. Simple as that. No installments etc. It's up to Norwich to pay that amount to us.
As for Robins seeing any of that money, I doubt it. What it might do is Sisu say there is no need to sell any star players for next season.
It's like buying a house. It isn't our issue if Norwich have to give us all the money if that's what they get in a first instalment. That was deal they signed with Coventry.
The money I doubt very much will be available for
Players. More than likely money will go towards the academy and this new site they've found for a new training complex.
I'm not sure how it works with sell on fees, assumed it would be staged in line with with the transfer fee, otherwise Norwich might have to pay their entire first installment to us. Like I say, I don't pretend to know exactly how these deals work.
As for Robins getting none of the money, not sure that has any basis. If they take the money out of the club that would have to show on the accounts and there has be little evidence of that over the last few seasons with transfer revenues received, it has all stayed in the club hasn't it? Again, happy to be corrected. Just wonder why you think it will happen this time.
I spoke to someone in a high position within the club and he told me that both Wembley matches and the odd chunk of money from player sales etc basically goes to cover the clubs running losses year on year , if you imagine we need say 12k attendance l to cover running costs ( maybe 15k if they throw a few quid in for some half decent transfers ) and we get maybe 7-8k on average gate over the season , then it doesnt take a genius to work out we need to cover losses with things like this. ( not saying those numbers are what we are talking about, but our gate doesn’t cover costs by some margin ) He said robins gets his budget and cup runs and player sales have little impact on that , it just plugs the gap for the losses the club make
You’ve seen the details of the contract with the sell on details then?
Or as usual are you just making stuff up?
think Saints is a decent move for him. basically a decent club which tends to play its young players.
add-ons etc. normally tend to be related to the first deal (ie. with Norwich) rather than rolling forward to the next buying club unless specifically stated.
sell on %s relate to total value of fee registered with FA not how it is received.
can't remember which player it was we took a lump sum on (cashflow reasons) which backfired when he was sold on for big money.
Wilson's poor season has cost the club a few quid as he was subject to a several 25m+ bids last summer (West Ham, Spurs & another club possibly Everton)
Finally, long-term Newcastle striker target Callum Wilson is reportedly demanding £60,000 a week to stay at AFC Bournemouth.
The Magpies enquired about the 26-year-old’s availability in each of the last two summer windows, and Benitez believes Wilson can improve and be moulded into a top-half Premier League striker.
Wilson scored eight times in 23 starts for the Cherries last term, but faces competition for a forward berth from Jermain Defoe and Josh King.
The losses don’t just happen, Sisu have been here 9 years now, it’s entirely their show from wage bill to rental of the stadium. If we are still losing money hand over fist after all that then it’s because they’re fucking shocking at their job.I spoke to someone in a high position within the club and he told me that both Wembley matches and the odd chunk of money from player sales etc basically goes to cover the clubs running losses year on year , if you imagine we need say 12k attendance l to cover running costs ( maybe 15k if they throw a few quid in for some half decent transfers ) and we get maybe 7-8k on average gate over the season , then it doesnt take a genius to work out we need to cover losses with things like this. ( not saying those numbers are what we are talking about, but our gate doesn’t cover costs by some margin ) He said robins gets his budget and cup runs and player sales have little impact on that , it just plugs the gap for the losses the club make
The losses don’t just happen, Sisu have been here 9 years now, it’s entirely their show from wage bill to rental of the stadium. If we are still losing money hand over fist after all that then it’s because they’re fucking shocking at their job.
I suppose one could suggest they negotiate a change ??How many football clubs make a profit? If our rental of the stadium existed at the original rent how would any owner make anything other than huge losses?
Or check what the rent was before you buy and enter into that agreement.I suppose one could suggest they negotiate a change ??
You’ve seen the details of the contract with the sell on details then?
Or as usual are you just making stuff up?
I wish someone would, otherwise this thread is as pointless as they come.Can you show us details of the sell on contract that Norwich signed with us please?
I suppose one could suggest they negotiate a change ??
Twice wasn’t it? Didn’t Fletcher try it?Tried that council refused
Grendel. You are a complete tool. I do wonder if you know anything about football? Maybe Wasps netball might be more your cup of tea?
That's trueI posted yesterday how the vast majority of EFL contracts work and % payments owed to the "original selling club"
That is fact.
I haven't seen the Maddison contract but would be very unusual if any different.
This has nothing to do with football - I guess we could look at your assessment of our chances last season and your rating of the player we are talking about?
Let’s be honest all you really want to do is type out the “robins won’t see a penny” line - which again is speculation
This has nothing to do with football - I guess we could look at your assessment of our chances last season
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