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Maggie Thatcher has died (6 Viewers)

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cloughie

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  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #36
Hugh Jarse said:
David Cameron has just written a personal letter to the Thatcher residence.

It starts "I regret to inform you that, due to recent events, you now have too many bedrooms...."

I certainly won't mourn her, I had her to be first to go in 2013 in our "who's going to snuff it next" sweepstake at work. She cost me £30!!
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she cost the working class alot more than £30 you got lucky
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #37
trueskyblueliam said:
one of the most amazing and inspiring women in history. I find it incredibaly rude and disrespectful that some people are rejoycing over her death. They should be ashamed of themselves
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you never lived through it!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #38
Macca said:
Blair makes her look like an angel and given the opportunity Milliband will even more so, scumbags
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Well yes she was really the first politician to make style and image key factors in British politics. Her biggest crime was creating a system that delivered us the ghastly Blair creature and his successor "Dave" Cameron.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #39
I'll exclude myself from anyone who respects her or thought she was good for our country, so excluded with pleasure.

Macca said:
Exclude my very working class family from your sweeping statements
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cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #40
Grendel said:
Well yes she was really the first politician to make style and image key factors in British politics. Her biggest crime was creating a system that delivered us the ghastly Blair creature and his successor "Dave" Cameron.
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She was a conviction politician which is missing in todays politicians , but sadly she was hugely misguided to the the extreme
 
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torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #41
Did anyone see the Miner on Sky News? He said he was celebrating today as are many other mining communities throughout the country. Very true. She destroyed our mining industry and even today we still import nearly 60 million tonnes of coal every year.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #42
Come one, who's going to be the first to sing 'Ding dong the witch is dead?'

A terrible leader who totally destroyed the sense of community spirit and of society as we knew it.

Sad to see anyone die, but I dare say there'll be a fair few parties to be had tonight up and down the country!
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #43
A friend posted this to facebook:

"When Margaret Thatcher succeeded in her ideological campaign to wage class war and bring the working classes to their knees she patted herself and her toadies on the back. With every life and community she destroyed, every factory shut down or sold off, every mine closed, she licked her blood stained lips and purred with pleasure. When the Falklands conflict was won, at the cost of hundreds of British lives and thousands of Argentinians, she called not for reflection on lives lost, but for us to "Rejoice! Rejoice!" With every deed committed she celebrated her victory. I've thought long and hard about how I would react at her death. I always thought I'd celebrate. But that's what people like her would do. I won't be that. So no, I won't be doing a joyous jig. But I sure as hell won't be mourning."
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #44
torchomatic said:
Did anyone see the Miner on Sky News? He said he was celebrating today as are many other mining communities throughout the country. Very true. She destroyed our mining industry and even today we still import nearly 60 million tonnes of coal every year.
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It's taken this long for car manufacturing to get back on its feet (though all the British makers are now foreign owned) as well. The legacy I feel we are still suffering from at the moment is the 'every man for himself' attitude she fostered which has made any form of welfare or charity be roundly criticised or cut. I was born only at the very end of her time in power so I can't compare things now to how they were back then, but I'd be stunned if people were so heavily driven by profit.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #45
WillieStanley said:
A friend posted this to facebook:

"When Margaret Thatcher succeeded in her ideological campaign to wage class war and bring the working classes to their knees she patted herself and her toadies on the back. With every life and community she destroyed, every factory shut down or sold off, every mine closed, she licked her blood stained lips and purred with pleasure. When the Falklands conflict was won, at the cost of hundreds of Bri...tish lives and thousands of Argentinians, she called not for reflection on lives lost, but for us to "Rejoice! Rejoice!" With every deed committed she celebrated her victory. I've thought long and hard about how I would react at her death. I always thought I'd celebrate. But that's what people like her would do. I won't be that. So no, I won't be doing a joyous jig. But I sure as hell won't be mourning."
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agreed with all you say and the rejoice of people being killed says more about the mentality of the women than anything.

Callous Bitch
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #46
WillieStanley said:
A friend posted this to facebook:

"When Margaret Thatcher succeeded in her ideological campaign to wage class war and bring the working classes to their knees she patted herself and her toadies on the back. With every life and community she destroyed, every factory shut down or sold off, every mine closed, she licked her blood stained lips and purred with pleasure. When the Falklands conflict was won, at the cost of hundreds of Bri...tish lives and thousands of Argentinians, she called not for reflection on lives lost, but for us to "Rejoice! Rejoice!" With every deed committed she celebrated her victory. I've thought long and hard about how I would react at her death. I always thought I'd celebrate. But that's what people like her would do. I won't be that. So no, I won't be doing a joyous jig. But I sure as hell won't be mourning."
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Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant..................there were less than 800 Argies killed in the Falklands war including those on the Belgrano
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #47
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's taken this long for car manufacturing to get back on its feet (though all the British makers are now foreign owned) as well. The legacy I feel we are still suffering from at the moment is the 'every man for himself' attitude she fostered which has made any form of welfare or charity be roundly criticised or cut. I was born only at the very end of her time in power so I can't compare things now to how they were back then, but I'd be stunned if people were so heavily driven by profit.
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Exactly. Bloody exactly. Exactly what happened. This selfish, every man for himself, greedy materialistic world we live in today all came under her watch and was something she actually actively embraced!
 
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Macca

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  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #48
torchomatic said:
I'll exclude myself from anyone who respects her or thought she was good for our country, so excluded with pleasure.
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Good good, everybody still has an opinion.We re not quite down that road yet.
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #49
Ashdown1 said:
Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant..................there were less than 800 Argies killed in the Falklands war including those on the Belgrano
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Which makes it all ok, then obviously.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #50
Ashdown1 said:
Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant..................there were less than 800 Argies killed in the Falklands war including those on the Belgrano
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Over 300 hundred killed on the belgrano she then came on news at ten with the infamous words Rejoice Rejoice, just because we had killed over 300 people

Thats okay then
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #51
Macca said:
Good good, everybody still has an opinion.We re not quite down that road yet.
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I haven't seen any news items yet as I'm still at work but I can almost garruntee that the only coverage will be positive and not reflect the views of the masses who despise everything she did and stood for.

Its the same assumption last year that everyone loved The Queen and the Royal family and had a great time during the wedding and jubilee. Absolutely nothing given for the strongly opposed views, of which there were many.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #52
Me included!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #53
WillieStanley said:
I haven't seen any news items yet as I'm still at work but I can almost garruntee that the only coverage will be positive and not reflect the views of the masses who despise everything she did and stood for.

Its the same assumption last year that everyone loved The Queen and the Royal family and had a great time during the wedding and jubilee. Absolutely nothing given for the strongly opposed views, of which there were many.
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Speaking of the Queen-if this is what someone as controversial as Thatcher has got on her death then God knows what the BBC will do when Lizzie eventually dies.
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #54
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Speaking of the Queen-if this is what someone as controversial as Thatcher has got on her death then God knows what the BBC will do when Lizzie eventually dies.
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I'm emigrating. There won't be a plate on sale in this country without her state dependent face stamped all over it. There won't be a channel on TV without images of Harry returning from "war" with a somber yet satisfied look on his face or William crying into his fathers confused arms. The media will go into overdrive and tacky merch will flood Tescos shelves.

Can't wait!
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #55
I wasn't a fan of Thatcher at all but having seen the way the world changed and globalisation developed you can see that it was commercial forces not political that has changed the world we live in. People talk about communities breaking down and one distinct difference we have these days is that in the 70's and even 80's Mothers tended to stay at home when the kids were young and comradeship and neighbourly relationships came from that.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #56
Ashdown1 said:
I wasn't a fan of Thatcher at all but having seen the way the world changed and globalisation developed you can see that it was commercial forces not political that has changed the world we live in. People talk about communities breaking down and one distinct difference we have these days is that in the 70's and even 80's Mothers tended to stay at home when the kids were young and comradeship and neighbourly relationships came from that.
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Hmm, but didn't she say that she believed there was no such thing as society and also said she was putting money into each individual's pocket for them to do as they pleased with it?

Greed set in and then people then promptly kept all the money to themselves.

There is no community anymore. It's been all but killed off.
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #57
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/...her?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Even in death she continues her good work.

I really want to see a Thick Of It special with this subject matter!!
 

WillieStanley

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #58
Otis said:
Hmm, but didn't she say that she believed there was no such thing as society and also said she was putting money into each individual's pocket for them to do as they pleased with it?

Greed set in and then people then promptly kept all the money to themselves.

There is no community anymore. It's been all but killed off.
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There's no community, but there is a Big Society :facepalm:
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #59
WillieStanley said:
I'm emigrating. There won't be a plate on sale in this country without her state dependent face stamped all over it. There won't be a channel on TV without images of Harry returning from "war" with a somber yet satisfied look on his face or William crying into his fathers confused arms. The media will go into overdrive and tacky merch will flood Tescos shelves.

Can't wait!
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It'll soon be followed by the coronation of King Charles III-let's see how public support for monarchy goes down the toilet when that blithering fool makes his first speech. I'd rather have Thatcher than him any day.
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #60
Divide and conquer, that's what i remember, whenever anybody stood up to her and her government of yes men she smashed them down with police truncheons and new laws. She absolutely created the selfish society we live in today, the clamour for shares in the sell off of the family silver was proof of this, by the way has anybody seen Sid lately. For me the most telling point made in the coverage today is that " New Labour " is her baby. Will we ever see a labour party prepared to stand up for the working man again, instaed of undermining him with cheap foriegn labour or even worse agency workers who give up a third of their pay in order to get a foot in the door, in the vain hope that they won't be shown the door three months later and might just land a proper job.

R.I.H maggie.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #61
The Falklands saved her, didn't it? Ironic as the Argentines only invaded because Thatcher took away the islands protection.

Ashdown1 said:
Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant..................there were less than 800 Argies killed in the Falklands war including those on the Belgrano
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #62
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It's taken this long for car manufacturing to get back on its feet (though all the British makers are now foreign owned) as well. The legacy I feel we are still suffering from at the moment is the 'every man for himself' attitude she fostered which has made any form of welfare or charity be roundly criticised or cut. I was born only at the very end of her time in power so I can't compare things now to how they were back then, but I'd be stunned if people were so heavily driven by profit.
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The unions destroyed the car industry.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #63
Poll Tax
Selling off council houses
"Every man for himself"
Stopping school milk
Decimating industry
Selling off all public owned services
"There is no such thing as community"
Inviting General Pinochet to the UK

Thanks Maggie.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #64
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Galloway-leads-chorus-celebration-left.html

Glasgow: More than 300 people attended impromptu street party
London: Over 100 people gathered in Brixton to 'celebrate'
MP George Galloway met with disgust after tweeting 'tramp the dirt down'
Facebook campaign to take 'Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead' to number one
Durham Miners' Association: Her death was a 'great day' for coal miners
Second most trending topic on Twitter: #nostatefuneral
NUS National conference reported to have cheered at news of her death
 
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muners

New Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #65
Selling off council houses??!!! I never heard anyone complaining that they got their council house for 35G then flogged it two years later for over three times the purchase price...... when it suits people when it suits. Yes things were hard but least she had the bollocks to stand up for what she believed not like politicians now.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #66
I wasn't a massive fan (before my time mainly) but she smashed the power hungry TU's which were grinding this country to a holt. I think a lot of people need to look at labour who created our benefits culture which everyone is quick to moan about.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #67
Covstu said:
I wasn't a massive fan (before my time mainly) but she smashed the power hungry TU's which were grinding this country to a holt. I think a lot of people need to look at labour who created our benefits culture which everyone is quick to moan about.
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Unions needed reforming and their powers curbing, but 'smashing?' Why did the unions need to be 'smashed?'

She didn't seek to reform them. She set out to destroy them.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #68
Grendel said:
The unions destroyed the car industry.
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...& arguably, ultimately the Miners Union destroyed the mining industry, & so on & so forth...Thatcher is simply just like any other PM in so far as they are the easy target to blame.
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #69
TrueSkyBlueLiam said:
One of the most amazing and inspiring women in history. I find it incredibaly rude and disrespectful that some people are rejoycing over her death. They should be ashamed of themselves
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Rude to deride the worst pm in history?
Her demise by being kicked out by her own party in 1990 was a truly memorable day.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 8, 2013
  • #70
Otis said:
Unions needed reforming and their powers curbing, but 'smashing?' Why did the unions need to be 'smashed?'

She didn't seek to reform them. She set out to destroy them.
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I think it was more a case of setting an example...tone it down (the "up the workers" socialist approach) & do what's best for the greater good (kinda socialist approach really?)
 
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