All those managers had initial success. The long-term tenures were created by success, not the other way around. If CCFC hire a manager who achieves success like, say, Moyes, then few fans would have an issue with him being here 10 years later.
Yes but all have been through sticky patches in their careers but have came through stronger for it when there board stood by there side
Look at Ferguson no premier leagues between 02/03 to 06/07, no title for 4 years. If he had been Chelsea manager he would have been sacked
Look at Fergusons first season as Man Utd manager, 1 away win for the whole season. Something that would be branded unacceptable by most clubs and a reason for sacking the manager. But they had faith in him
I choose Ferguson because he has been the most successful an I can't be bothered to look through everyones records
Not necessarily. Some managers are just more capable of getting more from the resources than the previous incumbent. The McAllister-to-Black transition should emphasise that to any CCFC fan.
We will never move forward hiring an firing every season, ripping apart one managers team to build another only to do the same again. Equally we won't move forward by allowing someone who isn't up to the job to continue longer than they should
Get the right man in and allow him to build
I think it is easy to confuse someone going though a bad spell and someone who is clearly not up to the job
Nobody is saying that firing a manager will definitely bring about better results. This is the whole AT thing that was discussed last season; a portion of fans felt that he was tapped out, that the results and performances were consistent enough to guarantee relegation, and that there was nothing to lose and everything to gain by trying somebody else. Hell, maybe we'd have been relegated if we didn't replace Boothroyd with Thorn. The point is to be proactive when needs be.
I agree if you have the wrong man in charge you should replace him, when you believe you have the right man in charge you should back him an stick with him through the hard times as well
What you appear to be saying is that it would be good to have a manager for a long period of time, that the recruitment process should be rigorous, and that an underperforming manager should be sacked even if it's merely 12 months since his appointment.
I don't disagree with any of that. All I am saying is that managerial performance is a mercurial, unpredictable thing, and we shouldn't set up expectations that could harm the club (such as sticking with an underperforming manager for the sake of 'stability').
Yes I agree with that, it is about getting the right manager in and sticking with him
I think you should pick a manager, if you have faith in his ability and qualities you should stick with him to come through tough times as a better manager.