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Malaka · May 14, 2024

I think Robins has done a fantastic job at the City and would hate to see him go.
I’m just wondering if we have reached the pinnacle of his ability? Could anyone else that we could attract do any better and get us over the line? And if Robins did get us over the line could we become a stable premier league team?
This is not a Robins out thread, just a friendly discussion

alexccfc99 · May 14, 2024

Malaka said:
I think Robbins has done a fantastic job at the City and would hate to see him go.
I’m just wondering if we have reached the pinnacle of his ability? Could anyone else that we could attract do any better and get us over the line? And if Robbins did get us over the line could we become a stable premier league team?
This is not a Robbins out thread, just a friendly discussion

No
No
Yes

Robinshio · May 14, 2024

I agree with Alex, but if next season we start like the last 2, I am not sure Doug will think the same - we need to be top 6 all season

Pricey1984 · May 14, 2024

The day Robins leaves is the day we become a 17th every year team again. He is a miracle worker

Sick Boy · May 14, 2024

The upcoming season is a big one for him as the expectation will be there from the owner and fans.

Skybluekyle · May 14, 2024

I die a little inside every time I see someone spell Robins' name "Robbins"

CBS16 · May 14, 2024

Who's Robbins ? If you mean Mark Robins this thread should just be closed

hill83 · May 14, 2024

It’s Robbbins

San Francisco · May 14, 2024

hill83 said:
It’s Robbbins

I thought it was Robbings.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · May 14, 2024

Ian Evatt for me if we ever have to replace robins - done practically an identical Job to robins in similar circumstances

alexccfc99 · May 14, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Ian Evatt for me if we ever have to replace robins - done practically an identical Job to robins in similar circumstances

Evatt owns shares in Bolton Wanderers - Could be quite tricky for anyone to prize him away

skybluecam · May 14, 2024

Imagine putting your heart and soul into managing a club for 7 years, dragging them from League Two to the brink of the Premier League and taking them to Wembley on four separate occasions only to find out that some fans can't even spell your surname correctly.

Otis · May 14, 2024

CBS16 said:
Who's Robbins ? If you mean Mark Robins this thread should just be closed

I was absolutely fine about it to be honest, because I am more than happy to let the one with the extra B go.

That way we get to keep the real one.

SleepyGinger · May 14, 2024

What would even possess you to make this thread? 95% of teams in the country would give anything to have what we have in Robins, he’s got a job for life if it was up to me.

biggymania · May 14, 2024

Robins has done something I am not sure any other manager could have really done, given the extreme circumstances in terms of the state of the club, the finances, the ownership and the fan relationship.

I think there could be an apex in the next 2 seasons where we're not progressing despite the clear investment and uplevelling of the squad - time will tell. I hope that's not the case because I want Robins to take us all the way!

I don't know enough about the day to day but I think it's been said that Robins is not a hands on coach. I think if you look at the low budget successes winning promotion to the prem they tend to be more coaches - and they have a very clear & modern identity and prescribed way of playing. Players are coached in detail - I don't think this is really what Robins likes to do and wants to do. So I think if there's an opportunity for someone to do better it would be a true coach manager in this area.

Malaka · May 14, 2024

Skybluekyle said:
I die a little inside every time I see someone spell Robins' name "Robbins"

Apologies, edited and corrected

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 14, 2024

Robins I believe is the 3rd longest serving manager in England, and compared to top 5 leagues in Europe is 6th I believe

Samo · May 14, 2024

Malaka said:
I think Robins has done a fantastic job at the City and would hate to see him go.
I’m just wondering if we have reached the pinnacle of his ability? Could anyone else that we could attract do any better and get us over the line? And if Robins did get us over the line could we become a stable premier league team?
This is not a Robins out thread, just a friendly discussion

He's more than earned however many years he's prepared to stay and has certainly earned a crack at the Prem.
He has developed a genuine affinity with the club, he knows how to build teams, nurture healthy dressing rooms and create an environment that players enjoy being involved in.
I believe we would not even be discussing top 6 Championship finishes were it not for him.
A change of manager would be a massive gamble against the odds for me.

standupforcity · May 14, 2024

hill83 said:
It’s Robbbins

Yeah You keep leaving the 'g' out?

stay_up_skyblues · May 14, 2024

Robinshio said:
I agree with Alex, but if next season we start like the last 2, I am not sure Doug will think the same - we need to be top 6 all season

Thats fine if Doug is giving him a top six budget. Otherwise he should be glad to have MR at the helm outperforming the resources made available to him. A season flirting with relegation is a different matter of course.

biggymania · May 14, 2024

stay_up_skyblues said:
Thats fine if Doug is giving him a top six budget. Otherwise he should be glad to have MR at the helm outperforming the resources made available to him. A season flirting with relegation is a different matter of course.

That feels right, doesn't it? But then Luton, Ipswich and perhaps even Portsmouth next year all heavily outperform their budget - this comes back to the point I was making about a more opinionated approach to football from the manager down. If Robins has a weakness in this age - it is probably the very thing that made him work here up until this point - pragmatism.

I hope it doesn't happen but I also won't be surprised if in a few years we hit a bit of a wall with the current approach. Maybe the new first team coach this time will evolve us again, but if not - I think that's the one area you could probably say Robins could do more of.

shmmeee · May 14, 2024

All this cos we finished 9th

Briles · May 14, 2024

its a good thing to discuss because one day Robins will be gone. Im not sure he will retire here. Whoever does come in after will have a hell of a Job to win the fans over i think.

wingy · May 14, 2024

biggymania said:
That feels right, doesn't it? But then Luton, Ipswich and perhaps even Portsmouth next year all heavily outperform their budget - this comes back to the point I was making about a more opinionated approach to football from the manager down. If Robins has a weakness in this age - it is probably the very thing that made him work here up until this point - pragmatism.

I hope it doesn't happen but I also won't be surprised if in a few years we hit a bit of a wall with the current approach. Maybe the new first team coach this time will evolve us again, but if not - I think that's the one area you could probably say Robins could do more of.

Huge budget last year though for Ipswich?

Otis · May 14, 2024

standupforcity said:
Yeah You keep leaving the 'g' out?

Gobbins? A bit rude, innit.

Ashdown · May 14, 2024

MR has done a fantastic job thus far. He’s had to battle through all extremes of circumstances and kept CCFC afloat and respectable.
My only criticism is that at times he makes excuses for the players/ performances even before a ball is kicked and I’m not always sure that motivates 100%. He also makes some odd substitution decisions.
All that said I would like to see him given all the tools he needs and another couple of years to achieve the promotion he is plotting.

biggymania · May 14, 2024

wingy said:
Huge budget last year though for Ipswich?

How does their 23-24 spend compare to ours?

The point is I think there are other managers performing very well on a budget around our level. Robins has done a job I can’t imagine anyone else could but we may start to see the ceiling of his approach in the next year or so. That’s when things might get tough.

You can do an exceptional job in one phase and run out of road at another, it happens.

I think if I could have my cake and eat it, I’d like to see a more modern first team coach come in and take us on another level, with Robins at the helm.

Hobo · May 14, 2024

Ashdown said:
MR has done a fantastic job thus far. He’s had to battle through all extremes of circumstances and kept CCFC afloat and respectable.
My only criticism is that at times he makes excuses for the players/ performances even before a ball is kicked and I’m not always sure that motivates 100%. He also makes some odd substitution decisions.
All that said I would like to see him given all the tools he needs and another couple of years to achieve the promotion he is plotting.

Excuses? What other top managers have you listened to? I think he is pretty balanced and honest. He tends to put the responsibility on the group while recognizing the oppositions strengths. The later is something our fans tend to gloss over being blindsided by league position or some preconceived idea of the opposition club being tin pot.

When he talks about fatigue I am sure it is based on a lot more data than what is in Joe Blog's head sitting in the stand.

Gray · May 14, 2024

If he ever plays 3 at the back again I'd sack him on the spot

Great_Expectations · May 14, 2024

Robins has weaknesses, as all Managers do.

I’m sure next season we’ll moan about his lack of substitutions, his stubbornness and his post match excuses.

It sort of doesn’t matter, he’s earned the right to have a solid couple of years to enjoy a stable ownership and funds to spend on players. He’ll take us to the Premier League, but as with most MR seasons, it’ll be a rollercoaster I’m sure.

ptr · May 14, 2024

He isn’t leaving until he gets us there. That’s how close we are. Whether it’s next season, one after or whatever….I’m convinced he’s taking us there.

Doug King would be an absolute fool to think otherwise. Luckily, he seems like a smart enough bloke.

Robins wants his statue…preferably with the correct spelling of his name on it.

skyblueeyesrevisited · May 15, 2024

What’s Kenny Jacket doing?
Asking for a friend

Skyblueweeman · May 15, 2024

skyblueeyesrevisited said:
What’s Kenny Jacket doing?
Asking for a friend

Still unemployed. Which is strange for a manager of his amazing calibre.

Malaka · Oct 19, 2024

What's happened to all the he must stay people?

Cally Fedora · Oct 19, 2024

Still here

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