Evo1883
Well-Known Member
Fuck em
Fuck emOfficer suspended course it wasn’t right even if in the circumstances one can understand why you’d want to get some retribution you professionally can’t
Agreed and it’s why it’s likely he’ll be chargedthe stamp on the head is excessive use of force regardless of whats happened
Stamp on the head is attempted murder. But then you start the fight that’s what you’ve got to expect copper or not. Torn.
It’s a legal thingThink the kick was more damaging than the stamp to be fair.
Provocation, he was OTT but it was a charged situation.Stamp on the head is attempted murder. But then you start the fight that’s what you’ve got to expect copper or not. Torn.
In Germany all the police around football fans were geared up, looked ready to go and didn’t look like the kind of people you’d want to antagonise.Our police are too soft , more often than not they are taken the piss out of , see Leeds the other night
Need people to Be afraid of the police really , not treat them like security guards .
What's wrong with getting him help/education demote him for a period?They showed the clip on the news earlier, was pretty shocking. The copper clearly lost his shit.
Now the statement has come out it makes more sense. Bloke broke a female officer nose. Male officer lost his rag.
He'll get the boot for sure, can't be stamping on a prone person's head....but can sort of understand his motivation
Nothing but won't happen. Would be a PR disaster for them.What's wrong with getting him help/education demote him for a period?
Like always, as with the Gillingham thread, when nobody disagrees there's no debate so the threads die after a handful of postsThis and the Gillingham stabbing threads within 30 minutes this evening so most will have seen both. That has 8 posts, this has 48. Draw your own conclusions.
What about the riots in 80’s??In Germany all the police around football fans were geared up, looked ready to go and didn’t look like the kind of people you’d want to antagonise.
Our approach to policing is a too soft and I believe that has played a part in rising public disorder and violence in the streets. There’s no deterrent.
Do you not think he should be charged?What's wrong with getting him help/education demote him for a period?
No debate? We all agree that a soldier stabbed 80 times outside a barracks is clearly mental health and definitely not terror related? I must've missed the memo.Like always, as with the Gillingham thread, when nobody disagrees there's no debate so the threads die after a handful of posts
Threads like this are longer because you're only a handful of posts in before you've got people who think stamping on someones head is fine and people who think it isn't
Surely this has more because there is video of the incident here. Therefore it is easier to make a judgement.This and the Gillingham stabbing threads within 30 minutes this evening so most will have seen both. That has 8 posts, this has 48. Draw your own conclusions.
This and the Gillingham stabbing threads within 30 minutes this evening so most will have seen both. That has 8 posts, this has 48. Draw your own conclusions.
As I say, I haven't seen the footage and don't wish to see it. Definitely have some sympathy with the police officers if they were provoked and attacked, but you can't, as an officer of the law, go round stamping on someone's head.The officer showed a level of restraint as he was holding a gun in his hand. If he’d truly lost the plot he’d have pulled the trigger.
And charged?As I say, I haven't seen the footage and don't wish to see it. Definitely have some sympathy with the police officers if they were provoked and attacked, but you can't, as an officer of the law, go round stamping on someone's head.
It's a shame, because they might be a decent copper, who just lost their rag in this one incident, but I think it's going to end up with them kicked off the force and sacked.
As I say, I haven't seen the footage and don't wish to see it. Definitely have some sympathy with the police officers if they were provoked and attacked, but you can't, as an officer of the law, go round stamping on someone's head.
It's a shame, because they might be a decent copper, who just lost their rag in this one incident, but I think it's going to end up with them kicked off the force and sacked.
GMP are on a par with the Met on that score, apparently, and have been the subject of a fairly recent (i.e. LAST WEEK) independent review by a top barrister into the treatment of women by their officers.Manchester police facing alot of scrutiny at the moment because of the conduct of its officers so I think that will play in to any decision and he could be in trouble.
Probably a rare occasion when we will not hear Andy Burnham say ‘what about Manchester?’Manchester police facing alot of scrutiny at the moment because of the conduct of its officers so I think that will play in to any decision and he could be in trouble.
Yeah, not sure on that.And charged?
To be fair to him (and i generally think he's a knob), it was him who commissioned the independent inquiry into GMP.Probably a rare occasion when we will not hear Andy Burnham say ‘what about Manchester?’
I was kidding, I like Burnham.To be fair to him (and i generally think he's a knob), it was him who commissioned the independent inquiry into GMP.
He is guilty (at least on the face of the video evidence) of assault at least. It could be regarded as violent conduct, grievious bodily harm with intent, or even, as shmee said, attempted murder. If that lad had a bleed on the brain and died (which may happen some time in the future), it would be manslaughter without a doubt.Yeah, not sure on that.
I an guessing the scum bag who was pinned down, might well take our a private prosecution
Not sure charging is the right way to go. Not sure to be honest.
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