Mark Robins 300 games (1 Viewer)
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ccfcchris
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I've supported the club through all those managers and without a doubt Robins surpasses all of them because none of them had to deal with the kind of shite he has had to put up with.
Grendel
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He’s been after Coleman the best supported manager with Sisu by a considerable distance. He also thrives on clubs moving grounds strangely - Milne had to put up with all the clubs money blown on the US experiment - even Gould had the guts taken out the club - it was disappearing down the plug hole when Sillett took over - many managers kept the club in the top division against insurmountable odds which in itself was a huge achievement
Brighton Sky Blue
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You do realise this season the quality of SISU’s support amounted to a player being sold to address a cash flow problem they refused to fix themselves…
Grendel
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Actually that is exactly my point and he was supported in the lower leagues far far more than most managers we had historically
hill sold Garry Thompson under Milne nose and told him he’d got zero money to replace him with - nothing.
You can’t possibly compare Milne or even Gould trying to compete with Liverpool arsenal etc every season Against a manager whose signed relatively priced players in the divisions he’s in
Compare Goulds resources to his in that first season he took over and there’s no comparison - he had a rag tag bunch of Lower league on non league players to survive
The only I guess comparison you can make is how we do in this league against the managers pre 1994 as none of them had the luxury of being a bigger club in a small league
Looking back Milne was a fantastic manager well ahead of his time.
Northants Sky Blue
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Cultivated 3 great teams in his 7 year spell
His later record at Besiktas was really something
Brighton Sky Blue
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It just surprises me the lengths you go to in order to play down what Robins has managed. As you well know and have argued before, he was allowed to spend in the lower leagues through the Maddison and Wilson sales-and SISU still helped themselves to cash in that time.
He has done brilliantly, there can’t be much dispute there
Robinshio
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some people cant accept when they are wrong - I think this is one of those, and boy has he properly fucked up
even in league 1 we had a mid table budget
in the championship we started with a bottom 2 budget - sometimes not sure if he is on the wind up though, as cant think he believes it
Grendel
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Its a discussion from an historical perspective
I guess you’d want an AI bot to write it and just say Noel Cantwell was the best manager the club ever had
Grendel
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What budget did we have when we were in the top flight? Let’s look at 1983?
Do you think Robins has done a good job? Better than good?
Robinshio
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2 years after we had sold one of the most expensive players in british history - anybody can play with statistics
Big Ron had one of the biggest budgets in the league at the time if you are picking individual years
Sillett earned the right to shop at Harrods but again would have been a very competitive budget
and yes Bobby gould purchased the core of our FA cup team if you are looking around 83, but he was not a great manager
Sillett got the best of those players, but Speedie aside his signings weren't as good as Gould's with a much stronger budget -
I have been watching city since 72 - post JH era, so cant comment on that , at this stage Sillett is ahead of Robins, but promotion to the premier league would put Robins number 1 without question. Continued improvement year after year and continually improved the value of our squad , and has more than generated his own budget since he was given Russell Slade's team of misfits
I saw the whole Milne era, and the 77-81 era was good, but ultimately under-achieved with the players we had at a time when finances were so much more even
Brighton Sky Blue
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More deflection as usual. Has Robins done an excellent job-yes or no?
robbiekeane
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Lol this has got to be up there with some of your best work
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Tbf, Robins also had an impressive rescue with Rotherham when they went to the Don Valley
Skybluedownunder
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Fuck I thought we were in the championship, my bad I don’t remember that far back. All I remember was we were having a great season
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Evo1883
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You'd have to also acknowledge that the difference between the biggest and smallest spenders / wage bills was infact Nowhere near that of today , at a time where agents didn't exist and a footballer was said pennies compared to today .. different world grendel
If we converted the average top flight wage of 800 pound in 1980 it would convert to 4384 pound today .. which is the average wage in the 3rd tier today probably
In 1983 , a year you want me to look at
Transfer fees
Liverpool spent the equivalent in today's money of 6.9 million (1.69 m )
Coventry spent the equivalent of 3.2 million in today's money (737k)
So as you can clearly see the difference between the best and the smallest is nothing compared to today .
The main difference between coventry and Liverpool back then is they didn't sell their best players .. Coventry did .. typical of our history
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