Transfer Rumour Marko Stamenic (5 Viewers)

[CovLad94]

Facebook already has fans saying if he's unsure we don't want him. Fucking called it.

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The Facebook forum is something else, some right wetwipes on there

 

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[Balli001]

Facebook already has fans saying if he's unsure we don't want him. Fucking called it.

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Some on twitter too. Guarantee most of them havent just taken a job offer before thinking about it before too

 

[hill83]

Just a nothing story because there’s nothing else to report on

You’ve got the job at the Cov telegraph. Congratulations

 

[Samo]

I wonder what people think of the UK when visiting, lots of parts of it look pretty desperate these days.

Probably not the bits they will see. Same as Brits abroad, unless your looking for it.

 

[Bernie Rhodes Nose]

These have slightly different meanings, but there's no difference in tense? And then you go on to say a couple of times that he's hesitating.

Edit: not that the difference matters!

Hesi-tenses

 

[Jonny]

These have slightly different meanings, but there's no difference in tense? And then you go on to say a couple of times that he's hesitating.

Edit: not that the difference matters!

Ha, correct you are. Same word family, different meaning is more what I meant. Point still stands though, uprooting from Denmark to Serbia, then uprooting again a year later can't be easy, especially for a 22 year old.

Besides, it's not like he had years and years of deliberation over it. The article says he decided within a day!

 

[kg82]

These have slightly different meanings, but there's no difference in tense? And then you go on to say a couple of times that he's hesitating.

Edit: not that the difference matters!

Well, hesitant doesn’t have a tense, it’s an adjective. Hesitate is a verb. So they’re different parts of speech, used in different ways.

 

[mrfr]

Well, hesitant doesn’t have a tense, it’s an adjective. Hesitate is a verb. So they’re different parts of speech, used in different ways.

I can’t wait for the football to start again.

 

[hamil99]

Red Star’s youth manager on Stamenić‘s move to Coventry.

Milijaš savetuje Stamenića kako da se što bolje snađe u Engleskoj

www.zurnal.rs

Translated:

Marko Stamenić will play next season in Coventry, a member of the English Championship, one of the strongest second leagues in the world. Of the former Zvezda players, Nikola Jovanović, Nemanja Vidić (Manchester United), Vladimir Petrović Pižon (Arsenal), Darko Kovačević (Sheffield Wednesday), Dejan Stefanović (Sheffield Wednesday, Portsmouth, Fulham, Norwich), Nenad Milijaš (Wolverhampton )...

The current coach of the red and white youth team is not surprised by Stamenić's departure to England:

“Crvena zvezda does very good transfers. The way of working has changed a lot in the transition period. Stamenić is a quality player who showed quality at the beginning and end of his stay at the Maracana. I hope he does well in Coventry.”

According to Milijaš, English football suits Stamenić best.

“Marko is not from our climate and I believe that he will fit in very quickly. I mean the language, his mother tongue is English, that's why he is totally prepared.”

Milijaš knows what Stamenić needs to play in the Championship.

“Marko is excellently prepared, even for a tough league such as the Championship. He will have no problems with the physical requirements, the rest will be helped by the people from the club so that he can play well for Coventry from the first game.”

Stamenić was used in several positions in Zvezda.

“He is best as a midfielder, when he faces the opponent's goal. Classic "box to box", because it has a tendency to be repeated often.”

Saw this on Facebook this morning, haven't verified it yet, but thought I would share.

 

[Nuskyblue]

Also, if you reduce 15% by 10% then that's 13.5% - your version makes no sense.

If this was GCSE maths 13.5% would definitely be the answer

 

[Nuskyblue]

not really

if I said to you of any profit you will receive 15% (of any profit = £9M) which will reduce by 10% (of any profit = £6M) then what do you get?

£3M

I’m with BlueSkies and Alkhen though, it’s convoluted, and I don’t actually really care who is right or wrong, obviously the more money we get the better, I just don’t think these multi millions of pounds people are already spending on their fantasy transfers are actually coming our way..

Eh

 

[Nuskyblue]

It’s not convoluted as in it’s difficult to do, everyone gets what 10% of 15 is, but it’s a strange way of writing it. When you’re dealing with percentages or whenever I’ve seen a contract it never usually states “10% off 15%” it’s just odd. At Tesco for instance they never state “10% extra off the 15% discount”, they’d just state “it was 10% off, it’s now 13.5% off”.
It’s nothing to do with the calculation, it’s obviously piss easy, it’s just how it’s never used like that that makes me think it’s either 5% or 10%, not 13.5%, they either mean “reduced to” or “reduced by”.

I think they do this tbh. Seasonal sales they'll do something like 30% of list price, this includes pre existing deductions.

And I really don't think it's difficult to do. I'm a boob and I can figure it out.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

I think they do this tbh. Seasonal sales they'll do something like 30% of list price, this includes pre existing deductions.

And I really don't think it's difficult to do. I'm a boob and I can figure it out.

Again as I said to shmmeee earlier, and in that previous comment, it’s not the calculation that’s hard to do, it’s dead easy, 10% of 15, 1.5, 15 - 1.5 = 13.5. It’s the way it’s written that you rarely see “the 15% fee is reduced by 10%”. No one ever does that because by its very nature it also implies 15% - 10% = 5%, which makes it too open for debate what the proper answer is, hence this whole discussion. Therefore I don’t think they mean 10% off the 15%, they either mean it’s reduced by 10% or it’s reduced to 10%. A percentage off a percentage is just odd, start getting into Christopher Nolan territory

 

[Nuskyblue]

Again as I said to shmmeee earlier, and in that previous comment, it’s not the calculation that’s hard to do, it’s dead easy, 10% of 15, 1.5, 15 - 1.5 = 13.5. It’s the way it’s written that you rarely see “the 15% fee is reduced by 10%”. No one ever does that because by its very nature it also implies 15% - 10% = 5%, which makes it too open for debate what the proper answer is, hence this whole discussion. Therefore I don’t think they mean 10% off the 15%, they either mean it’s reduced by 10% or it’s reduced to 10%. A percentage off a percentage is just odd, start getting into Christopher Nolan territory

Agreed, it's worded like one of those shitty maths questions put in to intentionally trip you up! May be a translational thing of course.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

Red Star’s youth manager on Stamenić‘s move to Coventry.

Milijaš savetuje Stamenića kako da se što bolje snađe u Engleskoj

www.zurnal.rs

Translated:

Marko Stamenić will play next season in Coventry, a member of the English Championship, one of the strongest second leagues in the world. Of the former Zvezda players, Nikola Jovanović, Nemanja Vidić (Manchester United), Vladimir Petrović Pižon (Arsenal), Darko Kovačević (Sheffield Wednesday), Dejan Stefanović (Sheffield Wednesday, Portsmouth, Fulham, Norwich), Nenad Milijaš (Wolverhampton )...

The current coach of the red and white youth team is not surprised by Stamenić's departure to England:

“Crvena zvezda does very good transfers. The way of working has changed a lot in the transition period. Stamenić is a quality player who showed quality at the beginning and end of his stay at the Maracana. I hope he does well in Coventry.”

According to Milijaš, English football suits Stamenić best.

“Marko is not from our climate and I believe that he will fit in very quickly. I mean the language, his mother tongue is English, that's why he is totally prepared.”

Milijaš knows what Stamenić needs to play in the Championship.

“Marko is excellently prepared, even for a tough league such as the Championship. He will have no problems with the physical requirements, the rest will be helped by the people from the club so that he can play well for Coventry from the first game.”

Stamenić was used in several positions in Zvezda.

“He is best as a midfielder, when he faces the opponent's goal. Classic "box to box", because it has a tendency to be repeated often.”

Saw this on Facebook this morning, haven't verified it yet, but thought I would share.

This sounds very promising tbh, surely it’s on. Can’t imagine the youth coach releasing a whole statement, even name-checking us, if the deal wasn’t already done. Just need that Robins handshake photo 🤝🏻

 

[Calista]

Well, hesitant doesn’t have a tense, it’s an adjective. Hesitate is a verb. So they’re different parts of speech, used in different ways.

I agree, so there can't be a difference in tense. Indeed we all agree I think

 

[SkyBlueSam01]

All's well that ends well

 

[JSL]

This sounds very promising tbh, surely it’s on. Can’t imagine the youth coach releasing a whole statement, even name-checking us, if the deal wasn’t already done. Just need that Robins handshake photo 🤝🏻

How did you read that?

 

[shmmeee]

Maths and grammar. Good to see the SBT School getting back to basics after high minded finance and law lectures.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

How did you read that?

It’s been translated above by the original person who posted it.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Exclusive Andy Turner news coming today. Apparently he’s got the inside scoop from the Red Star youth team coach

 

[StrettoBoy]

I don't read much into whether he hesitated or not. It's a big decision for a young man to move countries and clubs yet again. I suspect that it just means he wanted a bit of time to think it over. Who wouldn't? I certainly would.

I feel optimistic that this potentially exciting signing will happen. If so, I do hope the fans will give him a chance to settle in. Gykores, Hamer, Sakamoto, Simms and Wright all needed time and turned into great players for us.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Is it easier to sign Aussie / Kiwi players than it might have been prior to the trade agreement signed last year?

It's quite funny, King of Shaves products were amongst the consignment of goods sent to mark the commencement of the deal: UK’s first post-Brexit trade deals go live.

 

[WestEndAgro]

Again as I said to shmmeee earlier, and in that previous comment, it’s not the calculation that’s hard to do, it’s dead easy, 10% of 15, 1.5, 15 - 1.5 = 13.5. It’s the way it’s written that you rarely see “the 15% fee is reduced by 10%”. No one ever does that because by its very nature it also implies 15% - 10% = 5%, which makes it too open for debate what the proper answer is, hence this whole discussion. Therefore I don’t think they mean 10% off the 15%, they either mean it’s reduced by 10% or it’s reduced to 10%. A percentage off a percentage is just odd, start getting into Christopher Nolan territory

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

It makes sense! Anyway it’s boring now and doesn’t matter one bit so hopefully we’ll just leave it there

 

[TomS91]

Scout report on Stamenic from a professional scout.

 

[itsabuzzard]

Again as I said to shmmeee earlier, and in that previous comment, it’s not the calculation that’s hard to do, it’s dead easy, 10% of 15, 1.5, 15 - 1.5 = 13.5. It’s the way it’s written that you rarely see “the 15% fee is reduced by 10%”. No one ever does that because by its very nature it also implies 15% - 10% = 5%, which makes it too open for debate what the proper answer is, hence this whole discussion. Therefore I don’t think they mean 10% off the 15%, they either mean it’s reduced by 10% or it’s reduced to 10%. A percentage off a percentage is just odd, start getting into Christopher Nolan territory

"15% reduced by 10%" is unambiguous, and there's only one answer. I'm not sure what's so odd about reducing a percentage by another percentage.

 

[Covcraig@bury]

Let's be honest

If you were moving from the beauty of Serbian women and champions league football to the milfs in bell green and Craig danny shouting your name off the coach .. you too would hesitate

He’s seen the mad hatters and wants to know what the fuck their all about and do the pose a threat to his personal hygiene if he comes close to them

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

"15% reduced by 10%" is unambiguous, and there's only one answer. I'm not sure what's so odd about reducing a percentage by another percentage.

I’m really not arsed by this but 15% reduced by 10% could also imply the answer is 5% because you’re dealing with percentages as the unit of “currency” so to speak. It’s like 15 apples reduced by 10 apples, the answer is 5 apples, but if you said 15 apples reduced by 10% the answer is 13.5 apples, the fact that it’s percentage reduced by a percentage makes it ambiguous as to what the “reduction” actually means.

 

[shmmeee]

I’m really not arsed by this but 15% reduced by 10% could also imply the answer is 5% because you’re dealing with percentages as the unit of “currency” so to speak. It’s like 15 apples reduced by 10 apples, the answer is 5 apples, but if you said 15 apples reduced by 10% the answer is 13.5 apples, the fact that it’s percentage reduced by a percentage makes it ambiguous as to what the “reduction” actually means.

No that would be reduced by ten percentage points.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

No that would be reduced by ten percentage points.

What? God this thread is tedious

 

[rexo87]

please no more percentages chat

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

No that would be reduced by ten percentage points.

Actually I see what you mean now, although I don’t know if they would have put that in the contract written like that, and if they did maybe it’s been lost in translation. Either way I don’t think anyone cares at this point

 

[shmmeee]

What? God this thread is tedious

Last post on it: Percentages and percentage points – Content style guide – Service manual – Office for National Statistics.

 

[BlueSkiesForever]

Last post on it: Percentages and percentage points – Content style guide – Service manual – Office for National Statistics.

No I got what you meant after re-reading it. I get it, like how they use percentage points in a news broadcast about an election, but I’m not sure if the person writing the contract still means a reduction of the percentage points or a percentage reduction. I personally am sitting firmly on the fence on this one, and that’s where I’ll remain because I don’t care about this thread anymore. Someone please make it stop