shmmeee
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And yet both created more opportunities than McCallum
People really do go too far when admirably trying to defend players. He’s a decent young defender, he’s not the perfect player in every way, calm down.
Giles did very little going forward. Dacosta channelled his inner Cafu for one game.
And yet both created more opportunities than McCallum
People really do go too far when admirably trying to defend players. He’s a decent young defender, he’s not the perfect player in every way, calm down.
Burroughs isn't a RB, RW or RWB by nature as far as I know but a attacking midfielder who can go a bit wider if necessary (SBChimp I'm sure can correct me if I'm wrong). Eccles isn't either - he's a DCM.
I'm sure they'd be willing to play there if asked but I feel we'd be doing them a disservice to look at them to play there regularly. A bit like we ruined Osbourne playing him at RB when his natural position was as a disruptor and ball-winning DCM.
I think of the three Pask is actually the most suited to RWB, but again I feel he would be better as a right sided centre back, esp as he has a bit of pace which we lack in our current defence. Blaine Rowe I think is a more natural right back if we're looking to bring someone through in that position but it depends on how he is progressing in the development team.
Dacosta is a natural right sided player but he needs to be far more disciplined in his positioning. Maybe (hopefully) he can be trained to do that in which case he'd be the natural back-up for Dabo.
Oddly defenders are primarily there to defend
And yet both created more opportunities than McCallum
People really do go too far when admirably trying to defend players. He’s a decent young defender, he’s not the perfect player in every way, calm down.
Yeah sorry, I know Eccles isn't a natural wing-back, I was talking in an emergency scenario with Dabo & Dacosta both unavailable as happened this last season.
I do think Burroughs is possibly earmarked for that role going forward now, despite starting out as more of an attacking midfield player. He plays RWB regularly for the U23s & his attributes are a good fit (as you rightly say @SBchimp will know best!).
I think he is far more suited to it than having to resort to Pask there again & would even prefer Eccles fill in again if really desperate.
Oddly wingbacks aren’t fullbacks. We play 3421/3412 not 541/532.
All our attacking width comes from the WBs.
I try not to get comment on either, however...I think right now wing back suits him, he played as a RB for 2 games recently for Scotland 21's and they also questioned him about the fact that he uses his left a lot of the time and if he felt comfortable playing on the left. He is actually left handed, tends to dribble with his left and shoot with his right. I personally think the left may be a better option cutting inside etc..
in time I'm sure he'd like to come back more central and further up the field but who knows....
You even seem to be implying DeCosta has attributes McCallum hasn't - that is nonsense as is the suggestion Giles also has strengths he doesn't
OK. Sam McCallum is quicker than Giles and creates more goal scoring opportunities. This is true despite all evidence to the contrary because Grendel says so.
Sam McCallum is unlucky not to only not be in the Norwich first team, but the England squad as clearly the greatest wing back in the game. He has no flaws.
I don't know any of the players as people, opinions are based purely on performances.Im increasingly thinking we need two fullbacks and to go four at the back.
Disagree. Dacostas use of the ball going forward is much better, as is his willingness to take players on and his crossing.
McCallums use of the ball was truly terrible at times as was his crossing.
He’s a very good LB and a nice young man, but we don’t have to pretend he’s the perfect footballer to make that point.
Cardiff appear to think he has got those attributes.Giles hasn't managed to get into any team and hold his place - so i guess you with your stato board knows better than every football manager who has managed him. Perhaps the ex Wolves manager, the current Rotherham and Coventry managers should have your expert advice. Perhaps you should apply as a data analyst and also you should surely tell QPR to cancel the deal as you obviously have superior data intellect to them as well
As fp pointed out, could be the ideal move for him to actually have a team that plays to his strengths.Cardiff appear to think he has got those attributes.
That’s a fair point, there’s a player there somewhere. Possibly not as a wing back.As fp pointed out, could be the ideal move for him to actually have a team that plays to his strengths.
That team, however, wasn't and isn't us.
As fp pointed out, could be the ideal move for him to actually have a team that plays to his strengths.
That team, however, wasn't and isn't us.
OK. Sam McCallum is quicker than Giles and creates more goal scoring opportunities. This is true despite all evidence to the contrary because Grendel says so.
Sam McCallum is unlucky not to only not be in the Norwich first team, but the England squad as clearly the greatest wing back in the game. He has no flaws.
I think Sam continues his current trajectory he will be a premier league left back. Look how much he’s come on in 3 years and still only 20/21. Hes got all the attributes to succeed, think he’ll settle as a left back rather than a wing back though.
I feel like this will be the last time I comment on this, as McCallum is no longer playing for us.OK. Sam McCallum is quicker than Giles and creates more goal scoring opportunities. This is true despite all evidence to the contrary because Grendel says so.
Sam McCallum is unlucky not to only not be in the Norwich first team, but the England squad as clearly the greatest wing back in the game. He has no flaws.
OK. Sam McCallum is quicker than Giles and creates more goal scoring opportunities. This is true despite all evidence to the contrary because Grendel says so.
Sam McCallum is unlucky not to only not be in the Norwich first team, but the England squad as clearly the greatest wing back in the game. He has no flaws.
He is better than them two but I would disagree in your assessment that he’s very close to PL quality. Norwich have sent him back out without looking at him in pre season which would suggest they think he’s a long way offI feel like this will be the last time I comment on this, as McCallum is no longer playing for us.
I simply can't believe you feel Giles or Dacosta are anywhere near him in ability. He is very close to Premier League quality, and in my view definitely in the top three players for us last season.
Maybe Giles and Dacosta put in more crosses but generally they were poor in quality. Giles had no other game but to run on the outside and cross. McCallum often played intelligent balls inside to people like O'Hare but could also go down the wing.
Defensively there is no comparison.
You say his passing was terrible. I just don't agree. It was way better than Ostigard's. I like Ostigard but he really needs to work on that aspect of his game, and that is why he is further from being a Premier League player than McCallum.
Dacosta might be ok as a back up player, but if he is that, we must hope that Dabo stays fit this year. He is erratic and positionally naive.
Giles has some strong attributes, including good pace, but as I see it, at the moment a League 1 player at best. I accept if he widens his range of play he has the potential to be much better, but McCallum will go much further in the game.
The first time I read this I thought it said “he is erotic and positionally naive” for a second , that would’ve given a whole new meaning to the sentence….He is erratic and positionally naive.
Not one person has said that. Everyone's saying he's better all round than Giles and Dacosta.
I wouldn't like to try and limbo under that bar.
Seems your just very sheepish as you were a big advocate of Giles over MaCallum the whole of last season. Your back tracking is laughable on this thread.
Grendel tried to suggest that there wasn’t a single attribute Giles possessed which was better than McCallum. Is it ok to say McCallum was the better player but isn’t really a wing back and we need someone with more attacking impetus?
Do QPR play a back 4?
Do QPR play a back 4?
That’s not true now is it?
I think our left side was the problem with our progressive play. Hyam and McCallum had L1 use of the ball whatever their other qualities. When we went direct this wasn’t an issue and both looked more comfortable. Personally I don’t want us to be Barnsley Mk 2 and looking at the strikers we’ve brought in neither does Robins so we need better. Saying that doesn’t take away from McCallums good qualities but to pretend he has no flaws is ludicrous.
That’s not true now is it?
I think our left side was the problem with our progressive play. Hyam and McCallum had L1 use of the ball whatever their other qualities. When we went direct this wasn’t an issue and both looked more comfortable. Personally I don’t want us to be Barnsley Mk 2 and looking at the strikers we’ve brought in neither does Robins so we need better. Saying that doesn’t take away from McCallums good qualities but to pretend he has no flaws is ludicrous.
I rate McCallum but this is true. It was painful at times watching McCallum and Hyam on that left hand side
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That’s not true now is it?
I think our left side was the problem with our progressive play. Hyam and McCallum had L1 use of the ball whatever their other qualities. When we went direct this wasn’t an issue and both looked more comfortable. Personally I don’t want us to be Barnsley Mk 2 and looking at the strikers we’ve brought in neither does Robins so we need better. Saying that doesn’t take away from McCallums good qualities but to pretend he has no flaws is ludicrous.
So you are telling me Ismael never had you dribbling with the ball in training and you still ripped up the league?! Oh god... I do not want the 14th of August to come...West Brom Mk 2 you mean, according to our players on social media, the new head coach as them playing two touch football in training, dribbling with the ball and building up from the back when in possession, and pressing in packs without the ball. Quite a style change when in possession, but retaining the work ethic without the ball, should be a lot easier on the eye, hopefully it’s as successful as lump it was at getting the required results.
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