Ah, classic responses - I hear he was drinking.
''I'm not a footballer''.
I don't care whether footballers smoke or not. As others have points out, a lot of them do. Its a non story, just another stick to beat the club with.
So your happy if a player isn't 100% fit because it was clear for all to see Saturday that McSheffrey wasn't.
When Fat Fred a pikey drinks he's a bad apple, when a cov kid does it, its ok.
Fickle Cov fans at its best.
If you seriously think that smoking won't affect his fitness then you are deluded.
These lot make it up as they go along. Apparently fitness is no longer the issue with the squad, it is funny how things change so quickly.
I am sure that millions will now rejoice worldwide now that we have found out smoking has a minimal effect on the body.
Ah, classic responses - I hear he was drinking.
''I'm not a footballer''.
I don't care whether footballers smoke or not. As others have points out, a lot of them do. Its a non story, just another stick to beat the club with.
Makes you laugh don’t it.
I bet all the gyms now will be replacing the Lucozades fridges with cans of carling and be putting fag machines in because it’s great for fitness.
I never said ''smoking is great'', we should all do it. I'm sayings lots of players smoke and i haven't read many ''McSheff is obviously a smoker'' threads on here before. Didn't seem to affect him for the Leeds game, did it? Saturday was a poor TEAM performance, are you saying they are ALL smokers?
Ha, ha. LOL, etc. That is exactly word for word what I and others have said, isn't it? You got me there.
Ha, ha. LOL, etc. That is exactly word for word what I and others have said, isn't it? You got me there.
Answer a simple question then.
Do you believe smoking affects a players fitness?
The night AFTER the game?
The game we lost to a poor poor team. It is not about it being the night, but surely he would have them in training on Monday as well as maybe Friday afternoon to do a bit of tactical training for the next day?
Does smoking really affect your ability to score from the penalty spot?
People were ranting that we were unfit at the end of games because there was no fitness coach.
When Freddy Eastwood was unfit because of off the pitch things like drinking, was that ok?
Like I said, no problem at all with players having their own lives. If we had won then yeah Thorn could say "You played great lads, have Monday off as a treat" but when we lose to a shocking team surely as we were so poor we should be doing extra training?
Answer a simple question then.
Do you believe smoking affects a players fitness?
I see the forum's resident fitness guru still hasn't answered.
He'll probably start some daft thread about Clingan mate.... oh wait a minute
Answer a simple question then.
Do you believe smoking affects a players fitness?
Yes, of course it does.
However, that doesn’t seem to be the crux of your argument. You have a go at McSheffrey for his fitness levels and blame smoking, but you didn’t even know he did until you “heard” that he was smoking the night AFTER the match. If it had been the night before then I would have agreed with you
I don’t think anyone has particularly had a go at this lack of fitness before so unless he only started smoking the night before the Forest game then it’s simply not a factor in his performance as it has never been raised as an issue before. You’re just twisting the circumstances to suit your argument
We have been going on about lack of fitness all season from all of the players? I am pretty sure smoking doesn't affect you for just the day after...we have a game this Saturday too.
We have been going on about lack of fitness all season from all of the players? I am pretty sure smoking doesn't affect you for just the day after...we have a game this Saturday too.
Yes, of course it does.
However, that doesn’t seem to be the crux of your argument. You have a go at McSheffrey for his fitness levels and blame smoking, but you didn’t even know he did until you “heard” that he was smoking the night AFTER the match. If it had been the night before then I would have agreed with you
I don’t think anyone has particularly had a go at this lack of fitness before so unless he only started smoking the night before the Forest game then it’s simply not a factor in his performance as it has never been raised as an issue before. You’re just twisting the circumstances to suit your argument
But have we been having a go at McSheff in particular? Did we have a go at his lack of fitness after the Leeds match? Or is CUS just making up stuff to slag off the players/the manager/the club/the owners* again?
*Delete as appropriate.
Hang on, so you agree smoking affects fitness levels but you find it ok for him to be smoking? We've said players looked tired near end of games for months and that was blamed on not having a fitness coach so it has been questioned before.
McSheffrey looked knackered Saturday and anyone there would agree.
Secondly, i personally feel it’s wrong that the players weren’t called in for training on Monday especially after Saturday’s debacle.
I can’t get my head round why its ok for McSheffrey to be unfit but not Eastwood.
But have we been having a go at McSheff in particular? Did we have a go at his lack of fitness after the Leeds match? Or is CUS just making up stuff to slag off the players/the manager/the club/the owners* again?
*Delete as appropriate.
Secondly, i personally feel it’s wrong that the players weren’t called in for training on Monday especially after Saturday’s debacle.
I can’t get my head round why its ok for McSheffrey to be unfit but not Eastwood.
But have we been having a go at McSheff in particular? Did we have a go at his lack of fitness after the Leeds match? Or is CUS just making up stuff to slag off the players/the manager/the club/the owners* again?
*Delete as appropriate.
I think it is more at the club and the discipline than McSheff in particular, if he can get away with it then why not? If I could turn up to work 5 hours late every day for example I would....
Firstly, you're not the manager thankfully. Secondly, while there have been about a trillion threads on Eastwood's lack of fitness, I struggle to think of one regarding McSheffrey's. I haven't heard Thorn come out and stay that he is unfit and playing poorly. The opposite is true, if anything.
How many threads about fitness in GENERAL? Maybe if he didn't smoke he would have been fit enough to track back for our 1st after he gave the ball away?
Firstly, you're not the manager thankfully. Secondly, while there have been about a trillion threads on Eastwood's lack of fitness, I struggle to think of one regarding McSheffrey's. I haven't heard Thorn come out and stay that he is unfit and playing poorly. The opposite is true, if anything.
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