Just come to Iceland for a few days with Mrs WM and I get off the plane and there's a new post with 100s of messages!
Firstly well done Pete and Mark. Stellar effort.
I've 'only' read the first 300 posts and am now heading out to explore this beautiful place. All I can see is a great effort and positive responses from all but one.
It's a start and has started a great debate about next steps. For that, they and we collectively should be applauded.
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Right. Meet Sisu “be nice, keep it secret, I sure do love this stadium design Joy. Yes that legal action is your right Joy”. Meet the other parties “get questions from the forum, invite the media, bring along witnesses”. But both sides right guys? No fear or favour?
I have had enough dealings with the council away from the Ricoh/wasps/CCFC circus to know what an absolute bunch of tossers they are and what bullshit and duplicity they're capable of.
I don't need anyone on here to tell me.
You're right, I can't call everyone at the council evil, (I wouldn't use that term anyway to be honest), but I've dealt with enough grade A arseholes to form my own opinion.
As for being led down the garden path by the people who run our club, I have agreed with you regarding the ground as there is no evidence to back up their rhetoric.
There's plenty of evidence to back up that they're running the playing side far,far better over the last couple of years and have given the manager what he needs, that's why I'm prepared to listen to them when they are talking about their plans going forward, (excluding their new ground nonsense).
You are now starting to sound like Ginetta
Agree 100% with this post.From my perspective there are two businesses that both need a deal if they are to prosper. Wasps have a £35M bond to repay and desperately need additional income and for SISU to have a viable business to "sell on", at some point, they need security of tenure.
Additionally, for CCFC to potentially prosper in the Championship [fingers crossed we finish the job], then MR needs a big uplift in revenue available to him. A successful Championship club with a long term home and robust business will be worth a lot more.
Bottom line - both parties need a deal and they may not like or trust each other, but lots of deals are established every day in business.
From my perspective there are two businesses that both need a deal if they are to prosper. Wasps have a £35M bond to repay and desperately need additional income and for SISU to have a viable business to "sell on", at some point, they need security of tenure.
Additionally, for CCFC to potentially prosper in the Championship [fingers crossed we finish the job], then MR needs a big uplift in revenue available to him. A successful Championship club with a long term home and robust business will be worth a lot more.
Bottom line - both parties need a deal and they may not like or trust each other, but lots of deals are established every day in business.
Why do we need to see what one bloke on Twitter is posting on twitter. Not interested.
To be honest, I'm not sure what something like this would gain. There are 2 parties that can bring us back - Seppala & Richardson. CCC are now very much irrelevant in the immediate discussion. Where they can help, and so far are unwilling to do so, is by providing some impact statements on the club being out of the city and confirmation they'll work with the club to find a stadium. We can then use those things to apply pressure to Wasps and Sisu. Unfortunately, they seem to have decided without reason (just like @shmmeee) that there is some agenda against them (the council).
The argument used by people who are only interested in regime chance or else all say the same thing. They focus on the 6 and a half year stadium argument and this is all Shmmeee is now obsessing on
In the grand scheme it’s irrelevant as obviously the club needs to get back prior to any so called new build
It ignores the reality there has been no real intent to build a stadium and the club have been content to stick with the Ricoh deal
it conveniently ignores council behaviour in trying to obstruct attempts to move (eg the Butts fishing debacle)
The council are relevant
They are pretty much the only council in the uk to have considered its football club to be valueless
Theybe ignored there own statements made at the time
The nonsense around the butts was embarrassing
The hotel development shows they will do anything to help wasps succeed
Currently the club are refusing to even try and stop the legals just saying “it wouldn’t do anything” but also refusing to say they would drop them if they could.
In mid-April, SISU signed an undertaking to irrevocably cease all proceedings against Wasps relating to the sale and lease of the Ricoh Arena, in order to allow talks about extending our agreement at the Ricoh Arena to take place.
They prob tell wasps what to do mate.When I say they are irrelevant, what I mean is they aren't decision makers in terms of agreeing terms between Wasps and CCFC. I fully accept they have a wider role to play.
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CD when are people going to stop saying that the EU Compliant is a legal thing.
Pisses me off no end
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Right. “Against Wasps” which clearly they didn’t think included the current action but Wasps do. Semantic games that lead to the indemnity and the break down of talks.
Why won’t she ask for it to be forgotten or give up her right to appeal? Because she won’t stop. Actions not words matter here.
To hear you tell it Sisu would be happy if the EU allowed her to drop the case right? Yet she won’t even try and that’s fine because “it’ll probably do nothing”. We’ll support a ten man protest because “we gotta do something” but saying some words that won’t do anything is a pointless waste of time. Pull the other one.
You've lost the plot mate.Im literally the only person in this thread who isn’t happy with us remaining out of Cov but go off.
Not the Trust/ SISU/ Wasps angle but the thought of having a character-free, cheapo ground "like Shrewsbury's" is nauseating and very offputting. If you genuinely do have ambition then you don't plan to build a league one/two standard ground with too few seats for the Championship. We would end up with a (four sided) Kassam Stadium but with sky blue seats. We are not 'that' club. Yes SISU are doing better but if they consign us to a poxy, box like ground forever then all bets are off- if Robins and the team do their bit I would expect them to show exactly what "ambition" looks like for them a few years down the line.
Oh dear shmeee. You having a bad week?
Yiu can agree duggins is a twat right? So let ppl vent about him
You've lost the plot mate.
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I don't think people have grasped the basics of what any EC investigation would entail. Keep seeing "multiple judges have all said the same", that's exactly the point, the EC take it as read that those judges are correct and that they have applied the law of the land. What they will be looking at is if the law of the land is in line with EU law.Also with the complaint any stakeholder could of made it.
People and business have the right to do this.
It's not like Labour and the Law Courts to fall fowl of EU Law.
The last labour Government was renowned for people taking them to the EU court on Rights cases and winning after going through the British system of Justice and losing,
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