Originally Posted by Sharpie83
What is the Simod cup
There used to be a third cup competition I think it only lasted a few seasons I can't remember which divisions were eligible. My memory is going but wasn't it just for league teams who were not involved in Europe.
The
Full Members Cup (known as the
Simod cup from 1987 to 1989 and the
Zenith Data Systems cup from 1989 to 1992), was a third cup competition for clubs from the two top divisions who did not qualify for Europe, held from 1985 to 1992.
The competition was one of two cups, (the other being the Super Cup), set up after English clubs were banned from Europe.
Although the competition was open to all top division teams after the scrapping of the super cup, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man. Utd., & Tottenham never entered for any season.
The competition was cancelled when the league clubs split from the football league to form the Premier League.
It was named as such because these clubs of the top two divisions were classed as Full Members of the football league, with full voting rights. Teams from the lower two divisions were Associate Members and were eligible for the Associate Members Cup (now the Football League Trophy). The named changed when the Premier League was formed as all teams in the football league were given full member status.
Chelsea & Nottingham Forest won the trophy twice, Crystal Palace won once. Whilst Blackburn Rovers & Reading (beating City in the semi final in 1988) won the competition as 2nd division teams.
City's Record was very poor:
1985/6 as a Group stage. v Stoke (2nd. div.) (a) L 3-0 att. 3,516, v Millwall (2nd div.) (h) D 1-1 att. 1,086.
1986/7 entered at 2nd rd. v Norwich City (1st div.) (a) L 2-1 att. 6,236
1987/8 entered at 3rd rd. v Wimbledon (1st div.) (h) W 2-1, att. 5,549
4th rd. v Ipswich Town (2nd div) (h) W 2-0 att. 7,607
Semi-Final v Reading (2nd div. - relegated at end of the season) (a) 1-1, L 4-3 on pens, att. 15,348.
1988/9 entered at 3rd rd. v Middlesborough (1st div.- relegated at end of the season) (a) L 1-0 att. 9,938
1989/90 entered at 3rd rd. v Wimbledon (1st div.) (h) L 3-1 att. 3,781.
1990/1 entered at 3rd rd. v Derby County (1st div. - relegated at end of the season) (a) L 1-0 att. 7,270
1991/2 entered at 2nd rd. v Aston Villa (1st div.) (h) L 2-0 att. 6,447.
The
Super Cup was the other cup set, this was intended to run for the 5 years English clubs were banned from Europe - an exclusive cup intened for the 6 teams to qualify for Europe. It only lasted for one season.
The Super Cup was scrapped due to fixture congestion, one semi-final being delayed to just before the F.A. Cup Final, Mexico 86 soon after the F.A. Cup Final, at a time when the F.A. Cup Final was the last game of the season. The final was staged the following season in September.
City should have entered the super cup as cup winners for the 1987/8 season in place of the European Cup Winners Cup.
City did enter a competion in 1987/8 between English cup winners and Scottish cup winners
'the Anglo-Scottish trophy' to be played over two legs. However only one leg was ever played on Tue. 22nd Dec. at Highfield Road v Scottish cup winners St. Mirren, game finished 1-1 Dave Phillips the scorer in front of 5,331. The second leg at St. Mirren was due to be played on Tue. 22nd March, but never was. The cup never continued.