MEP makes fraud claim against council over Ricoh funding (2 Viewers)

martcov · Mar 12, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
As stated by many, it appears that people change there view after meeting with Joy, from being SISU-sceptic to pro-SISU. Examles are Sinclair, Reid and even Mark Robins who left with a pro-SISU/anti-ACL comment.

This may be due to compelling evidence for the JR but wouldn't some of this have surfaced by now and would be known?

The conspiracy theorists would probably say that SISU have found skeletons that they can use against these people.
A few months after the meeting Sinclair confessed to the sex change, something that was not openly known, are there other revelations?
Less Reid hung around for a while but he also seems to be lying low or gone?
Could Robins have made the comment as part of a verbally agreed departure?

Will we ever know the truth?

To be fair, changing sides is nothing new for Sinclair, as are corruption accusations. Les Reid has vanished from the planet..that is strange. Robins had asked for assurances from Joy, which were not forthcoming, so, strange if he then slagged of ACL who are only the landlords and cannot give assurances regarding the team. One thing that is IMHO sure, is that if SISU had anything on CCC or ACL that is game changing, ML would be stammering it over all the media instead of cheap digs and innuendos. The half of CCC plus ACL would be on the next train to London to start negotiations to stop the JR.

John_Silletts_Nose · Mar 12, 2014

The Gentleman said:
Stick me in a room with all of Sisu/Otium for an hour and I bet I can make them change their minds (not a threat Nick, just my persuasive charm )

As a test of your charm we should put you in a room with Sinclair to see if you can make her change sides again.

Edit: removed the "her/him" reference as the point was regarding the changing anti-SISU/pro-SISU changes in her opinions that should be changed back before tackling the harder task of changing the SISU/Otium stubbornness.

lordsummerisle · Mar 12, 2014

martcov said:
T. The half of CCC plus ACL would be on the next train to London to start negotiations to stop the JR.

They did make dropping the JR a condition to accepting the CVA.

martcov · Mar 12, 2014

lordsummerisle said:
They did make dropping the JR a condition to accepting the CVA.

That is true, but that would be necessary to start open negotiations. It is often the case that in conflict situations both sides put down their weapons when entering serious negotiations. CCC would have been giving up their "weapon" as well. The JR involves potentially costly and time consuming litigation - win or lose - as Joy has threatened. A perfectly reasonable trade off if one really wanted to negotiate, but Joy doesn't waste time on negotiations ( as stated in her interview ).

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 12, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
As stated by many, it appears that people change there view after meeting with Joy, from being SISU-sceptic to pro-SISU. Examles are Sinclair, Reid and even Mark Robins who left with a pro-SISU/anti-ACL comment.

This may be due to compelling evidence for the JR but wouldn't some of this have surfaced by now and would be known?

The conspiracy theorists would probably say that SISU have found skeletons that they can use against these people.
A few months after the meeting Sinclair confessed to the sex change, something that was not openly known, are there other revelations?
Less Reid hung around for a while but he also seems to be lying low or gone?
Could Robins have made the comment as part of a verbally agreed departure?

Will we ever know the truth?

I would imagine he got given a cease and desist order for how much he was digging up. PWKH told me he was surprised I hadn't had one myself so Reid may well have had someone have a word.

Jack Griffin · Mar 12, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I would imagine he got given a cease and desist order for how much he was digging up. PWKH told me he was surprised I hadn't had one myself so Reid may well have had someone have a word.

Cease and desist from what issued by what authority on behalf of who?

lordsummerisle · Mar 12, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
Cease and desist from what issued by what authority on behalf of who?

Just know that you're hoping it's the Illuminati or The Bilderberg Group Jack.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 12, 2014

Jack Griffin said:
Cease and desist from what issued by what authority on behalf of who?

A.N.Other legal firm acting on behalf of whichever party didn't like what he was saying.

John_Silletts_Nose · Mar 12, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I would imagine he got given a cease and desist order for how much he was digging up. PWKH told me he was surprised I hadn't had one myself so Reid may well have had someone have a word.

What had you discovered that would cause PWKH to think that you might receive such an order?

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 12, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
What had you discovered that would cause PWKH to think that you might receive such an order?

I don't know since I don't post anything that isn't in the public domain. However, if he thought that what I was posting might get such an order then Les Reid, actively doing investigative journalism and reporting on it, would be a likely contender also.

Jack Griffin · Mar 12, 2014

lordsummerisle said:
Just know that you're hoping it's the Illuminati or The Bilderberg Group Jack.

I'll just check that with David Icke.

dongonzalos · Mar 12, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't know since I don't post anything that isn't in the public domain. However, if he thought that what I was posting might get such an order then Les Reid, actively doing investigative journalism and reporting on it, would be a likely contender also.

Les Reid actively doing an investigation?

dongonzalos · Mar 12, 2014

James Smith said:
Sorry I don't understand what you mean I haven't deleted any posts today as nothing has been reported.

Who was posting this insane drivel?

John_Silletts_Nose · Mar 12, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't know since I don't post anything that isn't in the public domain. However, if he thought that what I was posting might get such an order then Les Reid, actively doing investigative journalism and reporting on it, would be a likely contender also.

If PWKH thought that then it sounds like he is referring to SISU lawyers, so you must have touched on something of interest but did not realise it.

Wonder what caused Robinson to change his opinion?

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 12, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Les Reid actively doing an investigation?

Shocking stuff.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 12, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
If PWKH thought that then it sounds like he is referring to SISU lawyers, so you must have touched on something of interest but did not realise it.

Wonder what caused Robinson to change his opinion?

Maybe, but like I said nothing I or 99% of posters here write could not have been found without publicly available information. Investigative journalists are employed to find out what isn't publicly available and it's there where Reid may have fallen foul by going too far.

Or it could be a much simpler explanation-no need for conspiracy theories just yet I think.

fernandopartridge · Mar 12, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Maybe, but like I said nothing I or 99% of posters here write could not have been found without publicly available information. Investigative journalists are employed to find out what isn't publicly available and it's there where Reid may have fallen foul by going too far.

Or it could be a much simpler explanation-no need for conspiracy theories just yet I think.

What do you know that's not in the public domain about those individuals who might know about things that are not in the public domain?

lordsummerisle · Mar 12, 2014

Has Les Reid been "taken out", and not for a nice meal?

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 12, 2014

lordsummerisle said:
Has Les Reid been "taken out", and not for a nice meal?

McDonald's?

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 12, 2014

fernandopartridge said:
What do you know that's not in the public domain about those individuals who might know about things that are not in the public domain?

Nothing.

shmmeee · Mar 12, 2014

So I guess what I posted was accurate, considering it's been disappeared?

I'll have to try this with other rumours:

I hear Joe Cole is signing...

Deleted member 5849 · Mar 12, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
no need for conspiracy theories just yet I think.

I can think of a cracking one...

Nick · Mar 12, 2014

shmmeee said:
So I guess what I posted was accurate, considering it's been disappeared?

I'll have to try this with other rumours:

I hear Joe Cole is signing...

Or it isn't thats why it went

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 12, 2014

Deleted member 5849 said:
I can think of a cracking one...

'A long chain hydrocarbon walks into a bar...'

shmmeee · Mar 12, 2014

Nick said:
Or it isn't thats why it went

I feel so special.

I even went out of my way to put allegedly in there, despite my disregard for libel laws on the Internet.

DaleM · Mar 12, 2014

Nick said:
Or it isn't thats why it went

Mine was accurate this morning and that went. :-(

SimonGilbert · Mar 12, 2014

shmmeee said:
Isn't she still on bail for fraud?

Little pot and kettle here.

Yes, she is most definitely still on bail while fraud related allegations are investigated.

She also reads these forums. Just so you know.

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RoboCCFC90 · Mar 12, 2014

SimonGilbert said:
Yes, she is most definitely still on bail while fraud related allegations are investigated.

She also reads these forums. Just so you know.

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That's not likely to bother anyone on here to be honest, just means that people will be creaming themselves over it.

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Nick · Mar 12, 2014

As long as things are factual and not offensive

If there are things that are made up, unproven or out of order they will be moderated!

shmmeee · Mar 12, 2014

SimonGilbert said:
Yes, she is most definitely still on bail while fraud related allegations are investigated.

She also reads these forums. Just so you know.

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Hi Nikki!

RoboCCFC90 · Mar 12, 2014

shmmeee said:
Hi Nikki!

Brown noser

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Grendel · Mar 12, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
If PWKH thought that then it sounds like he is referring to SISU lawyers, so you must have touched on something of interest but did not realise it.

Wonder what caused Robinson to change his opinion?

Not really people like to try and throw their weight around. Knowle on GMK has said he's had complaints from the other side in this dispute. I've had some interesting PMs telling me to back off and you can guess it wasnt sisu sending those. I'm not revealing who sent them so believe what you will but clearly they have had a massive impact on my posting behaviour.

shmmeee · Mar 12, 2014

Nick said:
Any links?

Just because the other wasn't sourced (and to be perfectly clear, I think she should be able to get elective surgery on the NHS, just like I think a Council should be allowed to use EU funds for an important community project. But then I'm a Social Democrat.)

shmmeee · Mar 12, 2014

Grendel said:
Not really people like to try and throw their weight around. Knowle on GMK has said he's had complaints from the other side in this dispute. I've had some interesting PMs telling me to back off and you can guess it was sisu sending those. I'm not revealing who sent them so believe what you will but clearly they have had a massive impact on my posting behaviour.

That's not on if it's all legal.

To paraphrase: You're a nobhead, but I'll defend to my death your right to be a nobhead.

Sky Blue Harry H · Mar 12, 2014

Which one is Nikki-the one with the big hands?

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