From a spectating angle I love 12.30, especially when I'm driving, but from an atmosphere perspective it tends to kill it and I firmly believe it's down to lack of alcohol. For all the moans and groans about people not handling their drink etc on here (of which I'm also guilty of moaning about), we do need the pissed up eejits (of which I've also contributed to) to create the noise, uninhibited and care free.
No it won't as a) they have already confirmed there will no more changes next year than this and b) Sky don't really want more FL games, there's not an infinite demand for live coverage of Oxford vs PrestonFortunately, neither me or you get to have any say in that. Ultimately, it will be decided by Sky and their deep pockets.
He also doesn't get demand and basic ecomomics. Sky aren't going to throw money at something that is likely to not make them much more money.Im not upset. You just clearly cant understand basic business contracts.
So why have they stated it at 3pm, up to 2 months prior?! They should just have TBCWhy would you make travel plans for 3pm when the final game of the season hasn’t been at 3pm in living memory?
Its not been at 3pm on the last day for years. What suddenly made you think it would be this time around? They do state that all games are subject to change. TV games after christmas can be changed up to 4 weeks before.So why have they stated it at 3pm, up to 2 months prior?! They should just have TBC
That sounds very much like what someone who is upset would say.Im not upset. You just clearly cant understand basic business contracts.
Completely irrelevant.Of course they can. But Sky won't want to pay more for the contract already signed and the football clubs won't want more games to be shown/have more games rearranged from the normal times and dates.
Imagine if the world existed outside of football.Agreed. Also, when was the last time a TV deal was renegotiated/changed within the contract term? There’s also a huge amount of planning and logistics behind the scenes that will have been organised & contracted on the basis of a five year term.
As expected you have no actual argument. Just admit you are wrong and we can all move onThat sounds very much like what someone who is upset would say.
Is it?Completely irrelevant.
Sky will be trying to get as many of the promotion/relegation games as they can to 12:30 for Skysports+.
So quite likely that some (or all) of our games against Hull, Burnley & Luton will be 12:30 or Friday evening.
Pompey now 9pm and Burnley 12.30
I think we need to get used to it. Next year in the Prem (), it'll be much worse with anything from Thursday to Monday.
So why have they stated it at 3pm, up to 2 months prior?! They should just have TBC
No season tickets for us next year, we miss quite a few anyway but sick to death of these sterile fucking 12.30 kick offs !
You work for SKY don’t you ?By sterile, I assume you mean lack of atmosphere? I don’t think that stands up, you just don’t like them. The kickoff time is fairly irrelevant to the atmosphere compared with other factors, i.e. how we are playing, the tension (or not) in the game, who the opponents are and even the weather.
Fulham & Leicester were prime examples of 12:30 kickoffs with more than a bit of atmosphere.
You work for SKY don’t you ?
Youre right I hate them !
Burnley and Portsmouth not those times
Its not fucking nonsense, if we were 16th it would be utter bollocks down there.
Fuck SKY , its about enjoyment and camaraderie and I was happier watching the likes of Mick Ferguson, Tommy Hutchison, Cyril Regis and Darren Huckerby all usually at 3 pm on a Saturday!
‘Grown up enough ‘ …self righteous prick !
I’ll be there, I don’t take Tablets but with the prospect of this shit going forward and living in Spain half the year I’m out….Love City, hate dependency on this SKY wank…fuck em !
Sorry but I have to disagree.I’ve got no skin in the game but am grown up enough to accept that Sky pay the big money and therefore have a right to influence when games are played.
Personally I prefer 3pm kickoffs for travel reasons but the notion that atmosphere is inherently worse for 12:30 kickoffs is just plain nonsense.
Sorry but I have to disagree.
3pm gives a chance to hit a few bars. Sink a few jars and get in the mood for it. 12:30 is get to the ground and the game starts especially on the longer journeys.
I know many don't have a few jars before the game. But many do. I know I'm more up for it having a couple of hours preparation with the lads than walking into a stadium stone cold sober.
Wasn't the Sheff Utd 4- 1 a 12.30 kick off too?No need to apologise, everybody is entitled to disagree. But interested to know how you would explain the Leicester and Fulham games then? The place was absolutely bouncing.
For those who really can’t enjoy football without drinking, I’m sure they are on it during the morning when it’s 12:30 kickoff.
Glad you've thought about it and seen the light. Just 2 more on this thread to do a U-turn and we're sorted.I’ve got no skin in the game but am grown up enough to accept that Sky pay the big money and therefore have a right to influence when games are played.
Personally I prefer 3pm kickoffs for travel reasons but the notion that atmosphere is inherently worse for 12:30 kickoffs is just plain nonsense.
Wasn't the Sheff Utd 4- 1 a 12.30 kick off too?
My argument is clear. Sky will decide when Championship games get played, the opinion of football clubs is irrelevant.As expected you have no actual argument. Just admit you are wrong and we can all move on
Glad you've thought about it and seen the light. Just 2 more on this thread to do a U-turn and we're sorted.
That wasn't your argument though, you were claiming Sky would make a unilateral decision to increase the amount of games live on TV despite there being a locked in contract and their being no economic benefit for them to do so.My argument is clear. Sky will decide when Championship games get played, the opinion of football clubs is irrelevant.
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