I love it when Grendel, Torch, Taylor and BRR make up something and then have an argument with anyone who shows them its wrong. They create an aunt sally which tales people's attention and energy away from the central issue. All they want to do is deflect any reasoned argument away from the simple truths which are that Seppala and Fisher need to get real and do what they said they wanted to do which is to work out some kind of deal with ACL that will allow everyone to get on with supporting a football team that is Coventry City Football Club and not the Mayfair Kerbcrawlers United.
I love it when Grendel, Torch, Taylor and BRR make up something and then have an argument with anyone who shows them its wrong. They create an aunt sally which tales people's attention and energy away from the central issue. All they want to do is deflect any reasoned argument away from the simple truths which are that Seppala and Fisher need to get real and do what they said they wanted to do which is to work out some kind of deal with ACL that will allow everyone to get on with supporting a football team that is Coventry City Football Club and not the Mayfair Kerbcrawlers United.
The central issue is CCFC pay too much rent and always have. ACL have now been propped up with taxpayers money and say they can survive without the club. Some say that's a piece of piss and some (like me) think they are bluffing. :
The central issue is CCFC pay too much rent and always have. ACL have now been propped up with taxpayers money and say they can survive without the club. Some say that's a piece of piss and some (like me) think they are bluffing. You talk of reasoned argument and then end your post with Mayfair Kerbcrawlers United. :claping hands:
The central issue is CCFC pay too much rent and always have. ACL have now been propped up with taxpayers money and say they can survive without the club. Some say that's a piece of piss and some (like me) think they are bluffing. You talk of reasoned argument and then end your post with Mayfair Kerbcrawlers United. :claping hands:
Surely Sally should have foreseen the events that led to the cancelation.
Anyone see the piece on City, ACL and the Ricoh last night? The head of ACL Jackie Whatshername said:
"Clearly it's easier if the Sky Blues are here but we have a robust* business....we had the Olympics** in the City, we have got Bruce Springsteen*** in June, we have got Muse**** playing here in May. We are really busy."
*Thanks to Coventry City Council
**Once in a lifetime event
***One off
****Another one off
Are ACL seriously saying they could manage without the football club, because I certainly don't think they could.
Of course they could! If they were not committed by contract to servicing all CCFC home fixtures they could tender for lots more events. Show Jumping, more rugby union, international rugby league to name but a few. They could also stage many more Saturday concerts and shows! Get real the stadium and facilities could make a lot more than the rent currently being charged!
Of course they could! If they were not committed by contract to servicing all CCFC home fixtures they could tender for lots more events. Show Jumping, more rugby union, international rugby league to name but a few. They could also stage many more Saturday concerts and shows! Get real the stadium and facilities could make a lot more than the rent currently being charged!
Bottom line is it isnt good for either ACL or CCFC for the club to leave the Ricoh. Both should be better off together.
ACL are saying they want the club there but their actions tell us that it is not any cost, they can survive without. They want a reasonable rent for a very good stadium
CCFC need the income potential of larger crowds to survive or progress and a reasonable lower rent
balls in SISU's court as far as I am concerned right now. Get a deal done and lets move the club forward on a stable basis
I assume this is a joke right?
Grendel and torchmatic must be the biggest muppets ever seen on any forum !
The answer is No as I cant recall them calling people names flippently , unlike some:facepalm:
Grendel and torchmatic must be the biggest muppets ever seen on any forum !
I tell you what then. If it's so easy, why not organise a few big concerts, exhibitions and Rugby Internationals for ACL and then I will say "you were right, I was wrong". Oh, while you're at it you can install a new sports team with the Ricoh as its home as Dongo said there are loads of teams waiting to take our place.
Goodness, I will be so full up on humble pie, won't I?
Oh, and by the way the "like" was irony.
You forgot the show jumping. Perhaps that can be done in Car Park C.
You forgot the show jumping. Perhaps that can be done in Car Park C.
As usual. Facetious rubbish. OSB's analysis shows its viable 'as is'. See his figures. Why don't you comment on those if you're so smart?
It's very very easy for those with a background in finance to quote figures and theoretically say it is possible. Of course anything is possible.
However if you are from a sales and marketing background you will consider it from a very different angle. If you are from a network capability background and someone suggested what was proposed you would have a heart attack as you would be located next to the NEC.
Ok no one on here has shown or demonstrated to me in this current Market where without CCFC playing at the RICOH can sustain in its present state. There will be no big name concerts every week up for grabs, if you think there are then you are deluded.
Of course they could! If they were not committed by contract to servicing all CCFC home fixtures they could tender for lots more events. Show Jumping, more rugby union, international rugby league to name but a few. They could also stage many more Saturday concerts and shows! Get real the stadium and facilities could make a lot more than the rent currently being charged!
hear what you are saying on that Grendel ......... but owning my own business for example who do you think deals with a lot of its sales and marketing ? Not saying you are wrong, i think it is a valid point, but things are not always so clear cut and defined as we all know. Figures are no good unless they can be implemented. Plans, targets, structures no good unless they can be achieved in the real world
Demonstrate to us the converse, where are your figures and rationale?
Don't have any, I see.. more ill informed nonsense... again!
And lets look at it from the other way, how will CCFC fare without the Arena.. they are a loss making club which will end up with inferior facilities, a smaller crowd an less attractive to new players if they are forced to move to a different venue. They'd be screwed, totally, probably drop another division or two and languish there, without an academy or anything like that for some time. It is in SISU/CCFCs interests to agree a fair deal, ACL are negotiating with good faith, Joy is hard balling it mental style, she the man!
It won't work long term without football, but CCFC won't work at all without the Arena & they need to pay for it.
Try & get your head around it, the way Joy plays it is as a life & death struggle, one or other party will die. ACL are trying to reach a compromise.
I want ACL to win here because they have Coventry's interests at heart & they are compedent. SISU do not give a damn about Coventry, CCFC or anyone except themselves & thier money, they will stomp on anything to get their way. If the current incarnation of CCFC dies because of these tactics, it will be the fault of SISU, but if it does (highly unlikely IMHO) they will rise again.
I'd rather stand up for what is right than let the finance boot boys kick my club in the balls.
Grendel and torchmatic must be the biggest muppets ever seen on any forum !
I've been all over, worked in some of the most intellectually bereft environments but I too would be hard pressed to find a match for grendel. I think he's actually addicted to idiocy.
A strange case.
I've been all over, worked in some of the most intellectually bereft environments but I too would be hard pressed to find a match for grendel. I think he's actually addicted to idiocy.
A strange case.
I've been all over, worked in some of the most intellectually bereft environments but I too would be hard pressed to find a match for grendel. I think he's actually addicted to idiocy.
A strange case.
How do you define competence? According to some on here it is so easy to make money out of the facility that they are glaringly incompetent.
Where you're doing yourself no favours here Grendel is to incessantly sneer at other income streams. ACL claim they need no other income, and could survive without the football club. OSB produces figures, extrapolated from filed accounts that seem to back up this claimed viability.
Any additional income, liberated from ACL being freed from the football club's absence; would purely be icing in the cake.
Or maybe you disagree with both OSB and ACL's board?
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