And the clique coming out with someone who cannot string two sentences together is helping is it? Surely if they wanted to help the club, it would be helpful to have someone with a coherent plan! This is CLEARLY lacking in these people right now.
It's all very well and good getting in front of the camera, or on the radio - but WHAT PRECISELY are they doing with it? Rhetoric is pointless at this stage! They sight Swansea and Pompey as their role-models, but they are NOT doing ANYTHING like they did!
If the clique had raised the 10% of the debt as swansea trust did, OR they managed to raise the financing which pompey trust did FINE. But THEY ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING OF THE SORT ARE THEY!
How much money have they raised exactly? Swansea's debt was £1million - the fans raised £100k - therefore fair enough no argument they deserve at LEAST a 10% stake in the running of the club!
Ditto Pompey raised a significant portion ( via land deals TBF, but brought something to the table nonetheless).
No unless they have suddenly found 10% of the debt (stated as £70 million, but roughly 1/2 was written of when sisu came, that is roughly £35million in debt). So let's be generous and say they could arrange paying off the dabt at 10% (won't happen but give the benefit of the doubt). That means for the trust to be JUSTIFIED ANY position on the board, they should raise around £3.5 million towards the purchase of the club.
Now IF they achieve this, then fine, I have absolutely NO quarrel if they get a seat on the board, as they have brought something to the table. But their emissary came on the TV and said that the club MUST have fan involvement - my question is WHY? What experience do ANY of the trust have in running a football club?
I don't have a problem with ANY fans group having a say, but it is UNETHICAL AND IMMORAL for the trust to claim THEY should have a seat on the board! WHY ? Surely the London Fan club has just as much right - if not MORE as they have been around longer!
WHY is it that the trust who as part of their stated ethos is being open honest and democratic, after a vote where 99% of their membership said they would have NOTHING to do with sisu, turn around and say they would be happy to arbitrate? That is dictatorial NOT democratic!
AS for coherent ramblings - REALLY? And the trolls simply throwing out insults is intelligent debate is it? Surely if I am so utterly wrong, WHY have NOT ONE of the trust EVER been able to put forward a RATIONAL defence of their cause?
Prime example the forums. Now this was for ALL fans supposedly, yet by "coincidence" well over 70% of the questions were asked by trust members! Thing is when you take their claimed membership of 2000, then they roughly represent 20% AT MOST! Therefore when around 20 questions were given chance to be asked, it is nit unreasonable to expect the trust to only be allowed 4 questions if it was a GENUINE representation of all fans! Therefore it WAS NOT a true representation. Sure they MIGHT have asked similar questions, but the salient point is that because the trust HIJACKED proceedings, their voices were unable to be heard!
But this wouldn't have been so bad, had they not been rhetorical questions! By doing that all they did was allow TF to wriggle of te hook, and waffle through proceedings. Even your TV stooge had to admit the forums were a sham!
And what about the protests? It's all very well having these, but they undermine your argument if they are supported so underwhelmingly! (Even if NO board members turned up, less than 1% of the trust bothered to turn up!)
So I totally dispute the ascertion that the trust are trying to save the club. If they were all out trying to get funding to buy part of the club, THEN maybe they could be considered a force for good within the club.
Sadly right now, they have no coherent plan (these protests only started AFTER I raised the prominence of them NOT doing anything) - Don't believe me? Check the date I started criticising them on here - within 1 week they had a vote to see if they should have nothing to do with sisu or not!
True this MIGHT be a coincidence, but surely if they REALLY wanted to do this, they would have started the protests MONTHS ago - this trouble hasn't just started has it?
No the sad truth is that the trust are being reactive to criticism rather than proactive in trying to save the club. This is clearly evident in the slap dash organisation of actions right now.
Surely you aren't going to tell me that CJ was the BEST person to go on tv? Surely someone who had experience of such things would have been able to put across your sentiment in a more coherent manner! It just made you look indecisive - and THAT is the point!
When the priority has become more about getting better and bigger profile rather than going out there and DOING something for the club and ONLY the club, you have to question the entire ethos. After all they seem more concerned in trying to berate ME than do what they claim is their SOLE PURPOSE!
Every time one of their trolls attacks with just an insult without ANY argument they lose that argument - They PROVE what I have been saying all along!
And it's sad really because they have the potential if they had a board who KNEW what they were doing. Clearly these guys are utterly out of their depth.
I mean come on if you cannot organise a protest against THE most hated owners of the club, you have to question what is the point of them! Certainly if they are this incapable of affirmative action how on earth can they be expected to be involved in running the club!
They claimed at one stage (although I have seen little evidence) that they want a share issue for ALL fans. Great I cannot disagree with that - indeed I have called for that. Yet rather than do this - the DEMOCRATIC way, they are following the wording of supporters direct - THIS is where they have changed and THIS is why I so ardently feel the trust is NOT a force for good in the club.
They want the board seat for free - without doing ANYTHING to earn that position. This should NEVER be allowed. Either bring something to the table (money) or shut up. Quite frankly right now the trust exists for its OWN sake!
The REASON why I am attacking this "damp squib" is that there is the real worry that to please what they PERCEIVE to be the will of the fans, these people get that seat on the board. Had you seen what they came out when they started they went out of their way to say they didn't want to run the club, they didn't want to buy. This all changed once they spoke to supporter's direct!
Just look at what they have done since those meetings - How many fund raisers have they had? 1 film night attended by 27 people! Wow that is going to bring in the money for new players!
When they say outright they have NO intention of having a seat on the board without bringing money THEN maybe I will stop criticising. But they WILL NOT, as they are starting to believe their own hype that they are the voice of the fans - and that - they most surely ain't!
