Money being spent in the Championship (2 Viewers)

SlowerThanPlatt · Jul 23, 2015

Boro have bid £14m for Jordan Rhodes and signed Downing back who's on 60k a week. Derby have spent over £10m, Fulham have been bidding for loads of players and probably will spend over £10m. Ipswich rejected £5m for a 32 year old striker who's had one good season. Even smaller teams like Brentford and Bristol City have spent quite a lot and will continue to do so. Makes you think, is there much of a point of getting promoted? We wouldn't be able to compete with all these teams splashing the cash unless we got a rich new backer and would most probably go down straight away.

So, a few questions:
Are you worried that teams in the Championship can now go out and spend £15m on one player?! Seems pretty crazy to me. Robbie Keane of the worlds best youngsters only cost us £6m 15 years ago and that was deemed a lot even by Premiership standards.

Do you think SISU would spend money if we got promoted so CCFC can have the best chance of succeeding and getting back to the Premier League like all the other clubs in the Championship?

And, FFP? Boro don't get huge crowds, how can they afford to spend £20m on 2 players whilst probably paying them 50-60k a week each? Is FFP all a bit of a sham and easy to bypass?

bradwellskyblues · Jul 23, 2015

borough chairman has backed them all along nothing new there. If by some fluke we got promoted the current owners would not back a serious push in the championship.

ccfcway · Jul 23, 2015

SlowerThanPlatt said:
is there much of a point of getting promoted?

yes .

kg82 · Jul 23, 2015

There's no guarantee with spending that money though. I know it heightens the odds in their favour, but there have been teams that didn't spend much and been successful. That is absolutely crazy money for that division though. Ridiculous.

Hobo · Jul 23, 2015

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Boro have bid £14m for Jordan Rhodes and signed Downing back who's on 60k a week. Derby have spent over £10m, Fulham have been bidding for loads of players and probably will spend over £10m. Ipswich rejected £5m for a 32 year old striker who's had one good season. Even smaller teams like Brentford and Bristol City have spent quite a lot and will continue to do so. Makes you think, is there much of a point of getting promoted? We wouldn't be able to compete with all these teams splashing the cash unless we got a rich new backer and would most probably go down straight away.

So, a few questions:
Are you worried that teams in the Championship can now go out and spend £15m on one player?! Seems pretty crazy to me. Robbie Keane of the worlds best youngsters only cost us £6m 15 years ago and that was deemed a lot even by Premiership standards.

Do you think SISU would spend money if we got promoted so CCFC can have the best chance of succeeding and getting back to the Premier League like all the other clubs in the Championship?

And, FFP? Boro don't get huge crowds, how can they afford to spend £20m on 2 players whilst probably paying them 50-60k a week each? Is FFP all a bit of a sham and easy to bypass?

Financially we are currently not in that league. There is currently a massive gulf between the Premiership and the Championship. With each year the same gulf is opening between the Championship and League 1. I can't help but feel SISU have missed many boats.

higgs · Jul 23, 2015

Crazy money for championship club to spend. Alot of teams in premier league in the past wouldn't have had that kind of money to spend

sw88 · Jul 23, 2015

Its madness what Boro are being allowed to spend. Kinda hope they fail this season, but don't think they will somehow.

ccfcway · Jul 23, 2015

its safe to assume that Downing is on more a year than our entire squad budget and we have one of the top 8 budgets in the league below them...

stupot07 · Jul 23, 2015

SlowerThanPlatt said:
1) Makes you think, is there much of a point of getting promoted?

So, a few questions:
2)Are you worried that teams in the Championship can now go out and spend £15m on one player?! Seems pretty crazy to me. Robbie Keane of the worlds best youngsters only cost us £6m 15 years ago and that was deemed a lot even by Premiership standards.

3) Do you think SISU would spend money if we got promoted so CCFC can have the best chance of succeeding and getting back to the Premier League like all the other clubs in the Championship?

4) And, FFP? Boro don't get huge crowds, how can they afford to spend £20m on 2 players whilst probably paying them 50-60k a week each? Is FFP all a bit of a sham and easy to bypass?

1) good point.

2) yes, the boom or bust model is getting even worse in the championship. We will be even further behind than we were before we got relegated if we ever get promoted.

3)no chance, there is no guarantee of getting promoted to the PL by splashing the cash, and Sisu won't be doing that. If we get promoted we will have one of the lowest turnovers in the league and therefore we will have to spend far more than the majority of other clubs to compete for promotion - again no guarantees.

4) FFP rules are different 8£ the championship, clubs can lose £39m over 3 years. Downing thought to be on £35k pw not £60k still extortionate (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-the-championship-from-west-ham-10395828.html). With the PL being the power broker the football league will be far more lenient with championship clubs than League One/two clubs IMO.

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skybluegod · Jul 23, 2015

Everyone in the championship is spending so much this season due to the new TV deal next year for the premier league, they are all taking a gamble on promotion as they can clear their debt as well as making a profit.

I for one wouldn't like promotion this year, I would rather have 2 summers to build a solid squad than go up via play offs this year , it might give us a better chance to stay in the championship. But no I doubt sisu would give much backing in the championship.

as stu said above different ffp rules, but also I think the rules are being made more lenient ? But may be wrong

Terry Gibson's perm · Jul 23, 2015

I would love to get promoted this year and worry about surviving when we get there, the best thing about being back in the championship is that you become more attractive to new owners as you are then only one step from the gold mine.

Philosoraptor · Jul 23, 2015

I read somewhere the Championship is the highest paid league for T.V. rights for a second tier league. I would say that is now starting to feed down to the clubs as well as the bonanza for getting into the Premiership.

To get us out of this league at the moment will take more then an extra five men over the course of the season. Just need to start the season with us pushing on promotion and then I guess a decision would be made if it worth a punt to get us back in the Championship.

Silence_Is_The_Enemy · Jul 24, 2015

the golden carrot got a shit load shinier with the new sky deal 20th place in the prem this year is 100mil in prize money alone spending 20-25 million now could pay off big time next season if it comes off. FFP is a joke man city got round it by their owner sponsoring their own stadium for 450 million, there is always a way round things like FFP for those ambitious enough to play the system and find the loop holes.

pw362 · Jul 24, 2015

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ation-qa-explaining-why-they-face-a-huge-fine
Does anybody know if QPR have paid a fine or been given a points deduction by t FL?

Silence_Is_The_Enemy · Jul 24, 2015

pw362 said:
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ation-qa-explaining-why-they-face-a-huge-fine
Does anybody know if QPR have paid a fine or been given a points deduction by t FL?

i think its on hold while their lawyers try to get them out of it

Limey · Jul 24, 2015

We need a promotion to inspire a new generation of supporters. We also need to readdress the embarrassment of w*sps getting bigger gates than us.

skybluejelly · Jul 24, 2015

Limey said:
We need a promotion to inspire a new generation of supporters. We also need to readdress the embarrassment of w*sps getting bigger gates than us.

Well if we gave away thousands of tickets we would have bigger gates...

The Lurker · Jul 24, 2015

skybluejelly said:
Well if we gave away thousands of tickets we would have bigger gates...

Load of bollocks, I know plenty of 'fans' who even when offered a freebie wouldn't go because the football has been crap. The gates will only increase if the football improves and so does our league position

shy_tall_knight · Jul 24, 2015

The Lurker said:
Load of bollocks, I know plenty of 'fans' who even when offered a freebie wouldn't go because the football has been crap. The gates will only increase if the football improves and so does our league position

Fully agree often had a spare ST and nobody would go. Do need a decent top 6 finish this year more than any other recent season

dongonzalos · Jul 24, 2015

Are we on a different financial model now to the one we were on when Tim Fisher said if we are promoted the model falls down?

rupert_bear · Jul 24, 2015

I think we are heading for a Premier 2 perhaps a 16 team top division and a 20 team second, something has to be occurring to be spending as they are may even explain sisu's sudden change of heart

stupot07 · Jul 24, 2015

dongonzalos said:
Are we on a different financial model now to the one we were on when Tim Fisher said if we are promoted the model falls down?

No, we're on the same financial model.

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fernandopartridge · Jul 24, 2015

Hobo said:
Financially we are currently not in that league. There is currently a massive gulf between the Premiership and the Championship. With each year the same gulf is opening between the Championship and League 1. I can't help but feel SISU have missed many boats.

In fairness, missing the reckless spending in the Championship boat might be sensible. City were fairly conservative in the Championship years yet still made significant losses every year.

Ashdown · Jul 24, 2015

We are now running at a similar level of finance and comparative backing as our rugby team. Both teams at 3rd tier level with support and ownership that will ensure survival and continuity but not necessarily success. For a City and catchment the size of Cov it's a pity that at least one club couldn't attract a seriously rich gambler !

chiefdave · Jul 24, 2015

The bubble has to burst at some point. How long before a big name team goes out of business?

I'd bring in fixed squad sizes in all divisions and a salary cap and floor in each division. If you get promotion but can't afford the salary floor you don't get promoted same as if you're ground isn't up the required standard.

Limey · Jul 24, 2015

How much did Bournemouth spend to go up? Not saying that's the norm but it can be done.

We need fans back in the Ricoh. Get promoted and see what happens.

steveecov · Jul 24, 2015

Silence_Is_The_Enemy said:
i think its on hold while their lawyers try to get them out of it

QPR and City got something in common then.

stupot07 · Jul 24, 2015

Limey said:
How much did Bournemouth spend to go up? Not saying that's the norm but it can be done.

We need fans back in the Ricoh. Get promoted and see what happens.

The spent/lost £15m in just getting themselves promoted from league one.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27224806

Lost £10m in their first season in the championship

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32611521

And I imagine they lost a lot more last season.

People will say that is money well spent because they got promoted, but you're not guaranteed promotion, and if you don't you end up in the shit like us.
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SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jul 24, 2015

Interestingly I was listening to Steve Parish (Palace chairman) on radio the other day and he reckons a 9 million budget should see you about mid table in the championship. I was surprised as I thought it would be a lot higher.

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