Mowbray Sacked (1 Viewer)

Sky Blue Harry H

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Duff sacked at Swansea, Mowbray at Sunderland. Neill at Stoke is on thin ice. Rotherham don't have a manager ( Nathan Jones was at their last game) Merry go rounds about to start. Sheffield Utd too!
 

alexccfc99

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Bugger!! we needed Mogga's post Christmas slump to take effect before they dumped him off
Think it already has tbh - the writing is on the wall for any manager when a local rival comes to your patch and beats you 4-0
 

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Hincha

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3 points off the play offs - seems very harsh. Especially as he turned it round last year to get them into the play offs. Their squad has some exciting young players but I don't think they should be expecting to finish in the play offs.

There were rumours that the owner wanted to replace him in the summer so seems to have been waiting to pull the trigger.
 

alexccfc99

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Not really as big as a shock as being made out

Don’t forget they only brought him into consolidate in the league after Neil jumped ship and they were going to get rid in the summer but reneged as he massively exceeded expectations

They were likely to get rid at any bump in the road this time around - I think they’ll go into the European market for their next manager myself
 

Sbarcher

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Not really as big as a shock as being made out

Don’t forget they only brought him into consolidate in the league after Neil jumped ship and they were going to get rid in the summer but reneged as he massively exceeded expectations

They were likely to get rid at any bump in the road this time around - I think they’ll go into the European market for their next manager myself
They had a European shortlist drawn up in April. One of their agents let the cat out of the bag and Mowbrey knew then he was on shakey ground. They kept him on having over-achieved in getting to the playoffs, but were then waiting for the right time to boot as he's got a lot of credit from the Sunderland fans. Once he started criticising the recruitment policy that was it.
 

SkyBlueSoul

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Probably hoping for a new manager bounce in time for the Geordies rocking up in the FA Cup. Harsh considering the players they've lost and replaced with relatively young, small money signings.
 

skybluegod

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Sunderland lost 32 goal contributions from last season (Diallo, Stewart and our own Simms), not dissimilar to us. Also not dissimilar that they are under performing xG. I think the sacking of Mowbray is exceptionally harsh.

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Speaking to mates up here who support Sunderland, apparently it's more of a fall out than it is about results.

He was told that he needs to start the young players over the likes of Dack, but expected to achieve results with young kids who aren't ready to play week in week out. A lot going on behind the scenes be interesting to see who they appoint.
 

SHUNT31

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Think Mowbray gets a lot of unwarranted stick if I’m honest. His record bar that second season with us is pretty good. I think most managers would have struggled to recruit well that year, we had a lot of players leave and no budget to bring anyone of any quality in.

If Robins was to go (hope he doesn’t), I wouldn’t be opposed for him returning. Would be very different under the current ownership.
 

SkyblueDad

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Sunderland have their eye on neighbours Newcastle, Mowbary never good enough.
Think Mowbray gets a lot of unwarranted stick if I’m honest. His record bar that second season with us is pretty good. I think most managers would have struggled to recruit well that year, we had a lot of players leave and no budget to bring anyone of any quality in.

If Robins was to go (hope he doesn’t), I wouldn’t be opposed for him returning. Would be very different under the current ownership.
Christ surely that’s in jest.
 

Frostie

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Not really as big as a shock as being made out

Don’t forget they only brought him into consolidate in the league after Neil jumped ship and they were going to get rid in the summer but reneged as he massively exceeded expectations

They were likely to get rid at any bump in the road this time around - I think they’ll go into the European market for their next manager myself
This.
 

alexccfc99

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Think Mowbray gets a lot of unwarranted stick if I’m honest. His record bar that second season with us is pretty good. I think most managers would have struggled to recruit well that year, we had a lot of players leave and no budget to bring anyone of any quality in.

If Robins was to go (hope he doesn’t), I wouldn’t be opposed for him returning. Would be very different under the current ownership.
He took 22 points from a possible 63 after we walloped Crewe 5-0 on New Year’s Day - that was relegation form

Couldn’t care less what owners he was working under, with the talent he had at his disposal that was absolutely criminal
 

Offhegoes

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The season we had Armstrong, Maddison, Murphy etc...There were still some awful performances before the New Year. away at Walsall & Sculthorpe springs to mind. Once Maddison went in Jan (but loaned back) and we knew Fleck was off in the summer it seemed everyone downed tools. The Joe Cole experiment was a failure too.
 

SHUNT31

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He took 22 points from a possible 63 after we walloped Crewe 5-0 on New Year’s Day - that was relegation form

Couldn’t care less what owners he was working under, with the talent he had at his disposal that was absolutely criminal
With a depleted squad. The side was never at full strength after Jan. They were a bunch of kids that needed reinforcements. Instead we got the donkey Henderson along with Stephen Hunt and Peter Ramage.

‘The talent’ in reality were just kids. Always were going to be inconsistent and none of ‘talent’ had really experienced a full season at senior level.

It is no coincidence he has done well pretty much everywhere he has been.
 

Hobo

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Reading have had 7 managers since August 2020. They are flying so must be the way to go?
 

alexccfc99

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With a depleted squad. The side was never at full strength after Jan. They were a bunch of kids that needed reinforcements. Instead we got the donkey Henderson along with Stephen Hunt and Peter Ramage.

‘The talent’ in reality were just kids. Always were going to be inconsistent and none of ‘talent’ had really experienced a full season at senior level.

It is no coincidence he has done well pretty much everywhere he has been.
Armstrong had played Premier League football umpteen times for Newcastle before he joined us and Murphy had Championship, League 1 and League 2 loans before he come to us

If anything the squad was stronger in the second half of the season as Maddison returned from an injury that kept him out pretty much all of the first half of the season

He blew it in a season Burton Albion playing turgid shite football got promoted, simple🤷‍♂️
 

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