torchomatic
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Ah, that's your default get out clause. I'm not asking you to research, just simply answer if you think Mowbray is a liar.
My problem is Torchy, I go too far to research things for answers for lazy fucks like you. I've stated my position once, research!
Mowbray hasn't said anything as he, and therefore cannot be lying.Ah, that's your default get out clause. I'm not asking you to research, just simply answer if you think Mowbray is a liar.
No I agree. I don't think he is lying. However SBK thinks he is.Mowbray hasn't said anything as he, and therefore cannot be lying.
Come on Mr Mowbray/Venus. if you're looking at Fan forums. Did you or didn't you have an interview at RUFC? simple question deserving of a simple answer
On one hand you've got someone on a forum claiming to have inside info. Now he may have been given that info and relayed it to us in good faith or he may have completely made it up, I have now idea.Mowbray hasn't said anything as he, and therefore cannot be lying.
And the balance of probability is you haven't got a "Jar of Glue mate"On one hand you've got someone on a forum claiming to have inside info. Now he may have been given that info and relayed it to us in good faith or he may have completely made it up, I have now idea.
But when on the other side you have CCFC saying no approach, Mowbray saying nothing and Rotherham saying they intend to do everything by the book the balance of probability is that Mowbray wasn't interviewed.
I would think when a club are looking to hire a new manager, they would follow a certain
course of action.
A, Identify candidates that would potentially fit the bill for them, do some research and
draw up a short list.
B, Make contact, probably through an agent to find out availability, and whether it would
be worth while following up on interest.
C, Arange to meet for discussions (call it a meeting of minds) probably over dinner, talks
around ambitions, philosophy's, targets, methods, expectations etc. And importantly
compatibility.
D, Advanced talks with agents concerning contracts , monetary negotiations, etc.
E, make official approach to club and seek permission to speak to their manager.
I would think it's highly probable that TM and MV got as far along as , C , but
Then RUFC decided he wasn't the man for them OR he decided that RUFC
were not the club for him.
Surely everyone realises that when an official approach is made , the work has
been completed and it's just a matter of dotting the I,s and crossing the T,s.
I bet Alan Stubbs enjoyed a nice dinner with RUFC representatives last week,
I doubt his club knew.
When you think about it , Bawtryneil gave us a heads up on here , and in
doing so alerted others , if RUFC backed off from TM ,this could be the
Reason.
Nuff saidI would think when a club are looking to hire a new manager, they would follow a certain
course of action.
A, Identify candidates that would potentially fit the bill for them, do some research and
draw up a short list.
B, Make contact, probably through an agent to find out availability, and whether it would
be worth while following up on interest.
C, Arange to meet for discussions (call it a meeting of minds) probably over dinner, talks
around ambitions, philosophy's, targets, methods, expectations etc. And importantly
compatibility.
D, Advanced talks with agents concerning contracts , monetary negotiations, etc.
E, make official approach to club and seek permission to speak to their manager.
I would think it's highly probable that TM and MV got as far along as , C , but
Then RUFC decided he wasn't the man for them OR he decided that RUFC
were not the club for him.
Surely everyone realises that when an official approach is made , the work has
been completed and it's just a matter of dotting the I,s and crossing the T,s.
I bet Alan Stubbs enjoyed a nice dinner with RUFC representatives last week,
I doubt his club knew.
When you think about it , Bawtryneil gave us a heads up on here , and in
doing so alerted others , if RUFC backed off from TM ,this could be the
Reason.
RUFC chairman said he was going to do things by the book. Where does that leave your wild accusations that Mowbray is a liar?Nuff said
I've not called TM a liar... You have insinuated I haveNo I agree. I don't think he is lying. However SBK thinks he is.
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Wanna bet?Whilst i acknowledge tapping up does happen, there's no way C&D would happen without the clubs consent.
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On one hand you've got someone on a forum claiming to have inside info. Now he may have been given that info and relayed it to us in good faith or he may have completely made it up, I have now idea.
But when on the other side you have CCFC saying no approach, Mowbray saying nothing and Rotherham saying they intend to do everything by the book the balance of probability is that Mowbray wasn't interviewed.
It's widely expected within the game, whenever an official approach is made , how and whyWhilst i acknowledge tapping up does happen, there's no way C&D would happen without the clubs consent.
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well tbf, CCFC and RUFC could just as likely as Bawtry be making it up - for whatever reason. TM could clear the whole thing up with a public statement confirming one version. He can't though either way for fear of annoying one or the other if this is "discreet" - or was supposed to be. Then we would at least have a confirmation of one of the 2 possibilities. Seems strange that Bawtry would give his real identity away - you can find his home address, company details, past company details through Google - and wind everybody up, 'just for fun'. He may have even have pissed off his contacts as shirt sponsor as well. Could come back to bite him. I think something happened, based on the unlikely event of him willingly making a fool of himself on here for absolutely no reason. There are plenty of WUMs who come on here, but they don't normally give their identity away.
So why did hubs give Rotherham permission to talk to Stubbs on the 30th May, but yet 2 days later he has not yet signed and been unveiled as their manager? Surely if they met Mowbray a week ago, they'd have already met and negotiated the deal before seeking Hibs permission? 48 hours and no deal? Thought these things were always done this way which is why deals get completed so quickly.....It's widely expected within the game, whenever an official approach is made , how and why
do you think the deal is completed so quickly, it's because all major discussions have
Already taken place.
Not just football, all headhunting in all types of scenarios are conducted this way.
The thing is if Rotherham were trying to illegally tap up Mowbray and Venus, surely they would be trying to be discreet about it and thus would not tell a clubs shirt sponsor.
My lips are bleeding through biting them.... They didn't tell the clubs "Shirt Sponsor."The thing is if Rotherham were trying to illegally tap up Mowbray and Venus, surely they would be trying to be discreet about it and thus would not tell a clubs shirt sponsor.
Are your pants on fire?My lips are bleeding through biting them.... They didn't tell the clubs "Shirt Sponsor."
According to Bawtyneal, they told him and he's the clubs shirt sponsorMy lips are bleeding through biting them.... They didn't tell the clubs "Shirt Sponsor."
He has done it the right way, what would be the point of a club making numerous officialRUFC chairman said he was going to do things by the book. Where does that leave your wild accusations that Mowbray is a liar?
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He's trying to be clever. He has a "secret", you see that only he knows.According to Bawtyneal, they told him and his the clubs shirt sponsor
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Wrong..He is the shirts sponsor. and they didn't tell him anything.According to Bawtyneal, they told him and his the clubs shirt sponsor
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It was (obviously) a typo, I mean *he's* so no I'm not wrong.Wrong..He is the shirts sponsor. and they didn't tell him anything.
NO! you're wrong again.. RUFC didn't say a word to him.It was (obviously) a typo, I mean *he's* so no I'm not wrong.
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What Brylowes said.Mowbray hasn't said anything as he, and therefore cannot be lying.
NO! you're wrong again.. RUFC didn't say a word to him.
I am the source. My company is sponsoring RUFC next season. Look on there website and you will see my photo. I am very close to the owners and directors.
48 hours after asking permission? Funny that, according to SBK and Bawtyneal he'd have already been interviewed and had his contract negotiated before seeking permission.... That's why it so quick permission to unveiling...Rotherham have confirmed Stubbs
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