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[Deleted member 5849]

A multitude of statements are bollocks, all set to just fire people up into finger pointing and angry shouting, whereas what we needed was a meeting like they had to do that, and hopefully more meetings in the future.

Who's next to release a statement? David Bell's chiropractor?

 

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[Otis]

A multitude of statements are bollocks, all set to just fire people up into finger pointing and angry shouting, whereas what we needed was a meeting like they had to do that, and hopefully more meetings in the future.

Who's next to release a statement? David Bell's chiropractor?

Damn! Thought it was going to be a screenshot of your bank statement.

Wanted to see if that money came in from that rich Nigerian uncle of yours and to see whether you shop at Home Bargains or Waitrose.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Damn! Thought it was going to be a screenshot of your bank statement.

Wanted to see if that money came.in from.that rich Nigerian uncle and to see whether you shop at Home Bargains or Waitrose.

Waitrose is so bourgeois, only Grendel can afford it.

 

[skyblueinBaku]

Waitrose is so bourgeois, only Grendel can afford it.

I think Grendel is more of a Fortnum & Mason guy than a Waitrose guy.

 

[Otis]

I think Grendel is more of a Fortnum & Mason guy than a Waitrose guy.

IN the Masons more like.

 

[Nick]

Tramps.

I just let my assistant deal with stuff like shopping.

 

[oldskyblue58]

For all the supposed spin doctors & PR experts around you would think at some point someone could actually put out a statement that cuts through the crap, deals with the issues and provides balanced clarity. Instead they all concentrate on historical blame game based on selective "facts".

CCC - come over as rigid and uncaring, unforgiving. Repeatedly create amateur hour moments because they fail to think things through. They undoubtedly come over to many as biased towards Wasps. That perception is also encouraged by certain other parties though. Never do they accept any responsibility for moving things forward, uncompromising
Wasps - actually say very little but are inflexible. They stick to the drop the legals and we talk mantra. Away from the dispute their PR is quite slick and is subtle on occasion. Again no engagement really with the CCFC community
CCFC - has improved in the last year or 18 months, it used to be a real shambles. It is better thought out and with purpose. It is also clear they toe the party line with the owners (understandably). However it can be inconsistent with basic elements regularly changing.
Trust - Personally i think their statements should be shorter and to the point. It is not a time for the softly softly approach. If it upsets certain parties where relationships might have been formed then you have to question those relationships
SISU - Speak rarely and when they do they release as "factual statements" diatribes that you could if you chose to drive a coach and horses through to disprove in large chunks. Any statement is for a for a very specific purpose, lacks any form/detail of acceptance or contrition for any mistakes and usually designed for deflection. There is no real element of compromise
Media - are either agenda or clickbait driven. Frankly we have been badly let down by error strewn, biased, egotists. You cannot rely on any of the media

Solution - all just shut up with the PR and get it sorted in private meetings, then pat each other on the back for a job well done, before giving us the truth of what has been agreed. The history has been done to death and re written far too many times

Just my opinion

 

[Ashdown]

For all the supposed spin doctors & PR experts around you would think at some point someone could actually put out a statement that cuts through the crap, deals with the issues and provides balanced clarity. Instead they all concentrate on historical blame game based on selective "facts".

CCC - come over as rigid and uncaring, unforgiving. Repeatedly create amateur hour moments because they fail to think things through. They undoubtedly come over to many as biased towards Wasps. That perception is also encouraged by certain other parties though. Never do they accept any responsibility for moving things forward, uncompromising
Wasps - actually say very little but are inflexible. They stick to the drop the legals and we talk mantra. Away from the dispute their PR is quite slick and is subtle on occasion. Again no engagement really with the CCFC community
CCFC - has improved in the last year or 18 months, it used to be a real shambles. It is better thought out and with purpose. It is also clear they toe the party line with the owners (understandably). However it can be inconsistent with basic elements regularly changing.
Trust - Personally i think their statements should be shorter and to the point. It is not a time for the softly softly approach. If it upsets certain parties where relationships might have been formed then you have to question those relationships
SISU - Speak rarely and when they do they release as "factual statements" diatribes that you could if you chose to drive a coach and horses through to disprove in large chunks. Any statement is for a for a very specific purpose, lacks any form/detail of acceptance or contrition for any mistakes and usually designed for deflection. There is no real element of compromise
Media - are either agenda or clickbait driven. Frankly we have been badly let down by error strewn, biased, egotists. You cannot rely on any of the media

Solution - all just shut up with the PR and get it sorted in private meetings, then pat each other on the back for a job well done, before giving us the truth of what has been agreed. The history has been done to death and re written far too many times

Just my opinion

Can't argue with any of that ! It's the stalemate of stalemates !

 

[hopesprings]

For all the supposed spin doctors & PR experts around you would think at some point someone could actually put out a statement that cuts through the crap, deals with the issues and provides balanced clarity. Instead they all concentrate on historical blame game based on selective "facts".

CCC - come over as rigid and uncaring, unforgiving. Repeatedly create amateur hour moments because they fail to think things through. They undoubtedly come over to many as biased towards Wasps. That perception is also encouraged by certain other parties though. Never do they accept any responsibility for moving things forward, uncompromising
Wasps - actually say very little but are inflexible. They stick to the drop the legals and we talk mantra. Away from the dispute their PR is quite slick and is subtle on occasion. Again no engagement really with the CCFC community
CCFC - has improved in the last year or 18 months, it used to be a real shambles. It is better thought out and with purpose. It is also clear they toe the party line with the owners (understandably). However it can be inconsistent with basic elements regularly changing.
Trust - Personally i think their statements should be shorter and to the point. It is not a time for the softly softly approach. If it upsets certain parties where relationships might have been formed then you have to question those relationships
SISU - Speak rarely and when they do they release as "factual statements" diatribes that you could if you chose to drive a coach and horses through to disprove in large chunks. Any statement is for a for a very specific purpose, lacks any form/detail of acceptance or contrition for any mistakes and usually designed for deflection. There is no real element of compromise
Media - are either agenda or clickbait driven. Frankly we have been badly let down by error strewn, biased, egotists. You cannot rely on any of the media

Solution - all just shut up with the PR and get it sorted in private meetings, then pat each other on the back for a job well done, before giving us the truth of what has been agreed. The history has been done to death and re written far too many times

Just my opinion

Agree with all this and would love for the solution to happen .......but fraid they are all too egotistical and to do any compromise of any sort without being seen to have "won"

 

[Nick]

For all the supposed spin doctors & PR experts around you would think at some point someone could actually put out a statement that cuts through the crap, deals with the issues and provides balanced clarity. Instead they all concentrate on historical blame game based on selective "facts".

CCC - come over as rigid and uncaring, unforgiving. Repeatedly create amateur hour moments because they fail to think things through. They undoubtedly come over to many as biased towards Wasps. That perception is also encouraged by certain other parties though. Never do they accept any responsibility for moving things forward, uncompromising
Wasps - actually say very little but are inflexible. They stick to the drop the legals and we talk mantra. Away from the dispute their PR is quite slick and is subtle on occasion. Again no engagement really with the CCFC community
CCFC - has improved in the last year or 18 months, it used to be a real shambles. It is better thought out and with purpose. It is also clear they toe the party line with the owners (understandably). However it can be inconsistent with basic elements regularly changing.
Trust - Personally i think their statements should be shorter and to the point. It is not a time for the softly softly approach. If it upsets certain parties where relationships might have been formed then you have to question those relationships
SISU - Speak rarely and when they do they release as "factual statements" diatribes that you could if you chose to drive a coach and horses through to disprove in large chunks. Any statement is for a for a very specific purpose, lacks any form/detail of acceptance or contrition for any mistakes and usually designed for deflection. There is no real element of compromise
Media - are either agenda or clickbait driven. Frankly we have been badly let down by error strewn, biased, egotists. You cannot rely on any of the media

Solution - all just shut up with the PR and get it sorted in private meetings, then pat each other on the back for a job well done, before giving us the truth of what has been agreed. The history has been done to death and re written far too many times

Just my opinion

Exactly.

It doesn't even matter if they put out a bit of bullshit to save face as long as a result is found.

 

[ajsccfc]

We hope to have an open letter that addresses the statements made in this statement by end of play

 

[oldskyblue58]

We hope to have an open letter that addresses the statements made in this statement by end of play

only if you consult my personal publicist and spin doctors first :happy: :hilarious:

 

[Sbarcher]

I think the collective is a Slagoff of Statements.

 

[We'll_live_and_die]

A multitude of statements are bollocks, all set to just fire people up into finger pointing and angry shouting, whereas what we needed was a meeting like they had to do that, and hopefully more meetings in the future.

Who's next to release a statement? David Bell's chiropractor?

I've called a meeting with my Council. It's been decided that we can't trust your statement as we can SISU straight through it.

 

[Otis]

I think the collective is a Slagoff of Statements.

Oh, bloody hell, that's all we need, the flipping Russians involved.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Exactly.

It doesn't even matter if they put out a bit of bullshit to save face as long as a result is found.

Which to be fair I think I happening. SISUs statement seems more conciliatory than usual.

Even the trust has changed a little bit of tact by targeting the council and wasps albeit gentally - seem to have an air of we know something you don’t.

They’ve met - all sides can say we’ve won once a deal is agreed

- SISU - “got a deal, now we’re identifting sites” (doubt its happening but they’ll say it)

- The council - mediated the whole thing etc, got the club round the table

Wasps - Legals are dropped, we’re assiting Coventry City for the good of the fans

The trust - it was us that targeted everyone and got a result

 

[GaryJones]

For all the supposed spin doctors & PR experts around you would think at some point someone could actually put out a statement that cuts through the crap, deals with the issues and provides balanced clarity. Instead they all concentrate on historical blame game based on selective "facts".

CCC - come over as rigid and uncaring, unforgiving. Repeatedly create amateur hour moments because they fail to think things through. They undoubtedly come over to many as biased towards Wasps. That perception is also encouraged by certain other parties though. Never do they accept any responsibility for moving things forward, uncompromising
Wasps - actually say very little but are inflexible. They stick to the drop the legals and we talk mantra. Away from the dispute their PR is quite slick and is subtle on occasion. Again no engagement really with the CCFC community
CCFC - has improved in the last year or 18 months, it used to be a real shambles. It is better thought out and with purpose. It is also clear they toe the party line with the owners (understandably). However it can be inconsistent with basic elements regularly changing.
Trust - Personally i think their statements should be shorter and to the point. It is not a time for the softly softly approach. If it upsets certain parties where relationships might have been formed then you have to question those relationships
SISU - Speak rarely and when they do they release as "factual statements" diatribes that you could if you chose to drive a coach and horses through to disprove in large chunks. Any statement is for a for a very specific purpose, lacks any form/detail of acceptance or contrition for any mistakes and usually designed for deflection. There is no real element of compromise
Media - are either agenda or clickbait driven. Frankly we have been badly let down by error strewn, biased, egotists. You cannot rely on any of the media

Solution - all just shut up with the PR and get it sorted in private meetings, then pat each other on the back for a job well done, before giving us the truth of what has been agreed. The history has been done to death and re written far too many times

Just my opinion

This is what the meeting in Westminster was supposed to do.
All the main players turned up except the Coucil who sent a minion - they have adopted a "cant be arsed" attitude.
The Council lack the sophistication required to get around a table - they are blinded by self serving righteousness!

 

[letsallsingtogether]

It's your fault