Liquid Gold
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Insurance comes in and people don't cycle they get in their car, traffic is worse, pollution is worse, there are more bad accidents and people get fat.
There is an answer somewhere but it isn't insurance.
Insurance comes in and people don't cycle they get in their car, traffic is worse, pollution is worse, there are more bad accidents and people get fat.That's where the insurance part comes into it then.
Insurance comes in and people don't cycle they get in their car, traffic is worse, pollution is worse, there are more bad accidents and people get fat.
There is an answer somewhere but it isn't insurance.
Everyone should have to do a year on a motorbike before being able to drive a car.
The constant threat of death translates very well into being aware of your surroundings whilst driving.
Nah I’m with LG and JHFC here. We should be moving to a cyclist/pedestrian/hoverboard first system. The idea that roads are for big hunks of meta going 40mph and everyone else needs to GTFO is wrong. Sure if we can segment off some space for a cycle lane then great, but in a country as cramped and mature as ours it’s simply not possible.
You want cyclists on the road rather than the pavement? This is how you do it. And you don’t put ludicrous ideas like insurance and driving tests in their way TBH.
THIS in a nutshell. I'm a cyclist, van driver, pedestrian & scooterist......in that order.
I know I know....there are dickhead cyclists too, but a lot of their behavior stems from the primary problem which is that, since the 1970s, we have designed the whole of modern life around the premise that car is king, to the point wherebycuntspeople think nothing ofbuyingrenting a massive SUV in order to drive less than 1/2 a mile to the shops or to drop their kids off at school......
....if I had my way, I'd force change upon everybody overnight by coning off a 3m wide section of every A & B road in the country & allocate it to bikes, scooters, skateboards, hoverboards, rollerskates, segways, etc.
Pedestrians get their pavcement back, all of a sudden there is a free, healthy quicker fun transport alternative & motorists can sit in the traffice queue & moan about traffice queues just like they do already......
Perhaps pedestrians should also have insurance incase they accidently walk in front of a car and its a no fault accident by the driver...
You are going to be disappointed. The amount of money being invested in vehicle technology is huge with Cycle Plans developed for the next two decades and beyond
I’m not sure how investment amounts change the fact that the U.K. has an existing transport network that can’t be easily changed to allow cyclists pedestrians and cars their own segregated space. The only way to do it is to make cars work alongside cycles/other low speed vehicles.
I’m not sure how investment amounts change the fact that the U.K. has an existing transport network that can’t be easily changed to allow cyclists pedestrians and cars their own segregated space. The only way to do it is to make cars work alongside cycles/other low speed vehicles.
Frankly its too much hassle and I can't see it being a vote winner. Most people have little interest in it and the electrification will in the end make it a nightmare as roads will be silent and cars much much quicker from a standing start - the network can't be easily changed and cars and HGV are and must remain the priority
Frankly its too much hassle and I can't see it being a vote winner. Most people have little interest in it and the electrification will in the end make it a nightmare as roads will be silent and cars much much quicker from a standing start - the network can't be easily changed and cars and HGV are and must remain the priority
That's the thing, driving past one every day and there's nobody using the cycle lane that has been put in place.
On the other hand, the road is a lot narrower so it means if a bus stops at the bus stop you can't go round, there's much more traffic because of it too.
Obviously this is just one instance, in other places there will be much more demand for them.
I mean we’re in a thread about the changes that are happening.
And electric cars have artificial noise at low speeds by law just FYI. My dads car sounds like a fricken spaceship.
Try it in an I Pace at 50 mph
Maybe we’re at cross purposes here, I’m talking about city centres where speeds are 30mph or lower. I’m not talking about giving cyclists right of way on the M6!
Everyone should have to do a year on a motorbike before being able to drive a car.
The constant threat of death translates very well into being aware of your surroundings whilst driving.
Putting this in my wallI’m with LG
Everyone should have to do a year on a motorbike before being able to drive a car.
The constant threat of death translates very well into being aware of your surroundings whilst driving.
Same here. I've driven buses, coaches, lorries and limos in my 50+ years of driving. I was always taught to "drive at least 50 yards ahead of yourself", which basically means that you look ahead and anticipate what is happening ahead of you as well as what is directly around you. Over the years, I have received 7 'Safe Driving' Awards from the West Midlands Traffic Commission. Never had an accident and probably notched up a million+ miles.I find this thread bewildering, I drive miles everyday and cannot remember a single time I've had a near collision with a pedestrian or cyclist that required me to brake hard. Just anticipate as far ahead as possible at all times, you'd have to be really unlucky like have someone walk out from behind a parked car or something.
On the other hand I feel like I get into near-collisions with other motorists every day. Twats that don't seem to understand what road marking are for, don't feel like driving in one lane or indicating, constantly break speed limits, and tailgate when you have the audacity to drive 30 in a 30 zone.
Cycling in the snow!!!!The cycle lane between Millison's Wood and Meriden is a worry, it's bordered by cats eyes on raised blocks which means if it snows for example a driver's ruining their suspension on them and cyclists are going arse over tit on them.
I find this thread bewildering, I drive miles everyday and cannot remember a single time I've had a near collision with a pedestrian or cyclist that required me to brake hard. Just anticipate as far ahead as possible at all times, you'd have to be really unlucky like have someone walk out from behind a parked car or something.
On the other hand I feel like I get into near-collisions with other motorists every day. Twats that don't seem to understand what road marking are for, don't feel like driving in one lane or indicating, constantly break speed limits, and tailgate when you have the audacity to drive 30 in a 30 zone.
This thread and the 'Things that annoy you' thread make me very glad I don't need a car. Just endless grief it seems.
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