weecohawena
Well-Known Member
This whole Telegraph press campaign reeks of them knowing something that most don't. Give it a couple of weeks and SISU agree to sell they will be praised to high heaven that they forced SISUs hand.
Feels like something is happening, I'm not sure it's anything good though.
the training ground stuff came out because it was in the RBC plan published last week.
Correct. Too many conspiracy theorists trying to look beyond the obvious.
Ditto the Telegraph piece might be motivated by us rooting ourselves to the bottom of the third tier of the football league, and our latest director - something like the 14th under SISU - responding by pinning his ears back and heading for the exit door[/QUOTE
Well lets be really optimistic!! The reason Chris Anderson left is he has done all the work he can do. In his 12 months he has put a case together for our owners to show them that they should sell for 30 million. He has also put together a case to Wasp owners to show that by buying CCFC for 30million, combining as many of the facilities as possible they will be able to effectively have recouped their money in no time at all. In addition they have all agreed to negotiate together for a new stadium sponsor for £30 million and the council have agreed that they will work tirelessly to help both CCFC and Wasps become European champions in their respective sports within the next 5 years.
There you go now you all feel better, ready for the weekend and the trip to Gillingham to provide us with further good news !! 3 points Onwards and upwards
You do feel like things are starting to come to a head, but this mood may all peter out (especially if we win tomorrow).
On a separate note, does anyone else remember the line from the club/SISU around 2011 when they kept saying they were looking for new investors to "share the load" - that was around the time of Clouting and Igwe being at the club. Fisher arrived and that whole narrative was dropped in favour of the attempt to crowbar the stadium away from the council.
Is that your gut feel or are you privvy to some extra info on this??Things moving in some way has nothing to do with the Telegraphs campaign or the league position of the club. Their campaign has 'gone live' on the back of them getting wind that something is happening with the owners.
Massive gamble knowing full well they would lose access to the club though?If the CT knew something about potential owners/investors they'd be printing it to the moon. Every day there'd be a headline about "new saviours".
The last time someone wanted to buy City, the Telegraph scared them off by naming them in the paper!
You're correct. Must be something going on.Massive gamble knowing full well they would lose access to the club though?
In reality what pressure is there on SISU that they feel, or makes them uncomfortable.
I know everyone hopes something is going to happen and that SISU will be on their way but what has actually changed. So some thoughts.
- They are seeking planning permission on Ryton and a proposal is included in the RBC 15 year plan - so hardly imminent so no sale soon planning could take many months/years
- They are apparently looking to be a tenant at BPA which hasn't even started to be developed - again not imminent but have a plan forward
- the Academy is under threat but apparently discussions were constructive and positive - still time to save the Academy if they want to
- We still have agreement to play at Ricoh until end of 2017/18 season - so pressing but not urgent. I doubt Wasps would actually kick us out so long as it doesn't cost them to have us there. PR aspect of kicking CCFC out would be very negative
- There is a petition that has in 3 days reached short of 13000 signatures nationally - the owners are so remote from the situation will it really affect them (that is not me saying we should do nothing btw I signed the first day). Have the CT in part used the fans unrest at poor results and built on it? Is it based on something going on in the background about changing ownership or is it something else say of a legal nature, or just plain old selling papers
- This squeeze being put on SISU is really primarily on CCFC hoping to squeeze SISU - but if SISU as I suspect have taken a lot of the losses on investment what more is there to lose if they are not putting any new money in
- does/can the stuff about the Academy, Ryton, BPA get spun in a certain way to convince the FL & FA that the club and owners are doing all they can but keep being blocked, that the fans don't understand what SISU have had to put up with - so keep pressure from regulators off
The thing that will really make the difference and create pressure for CCFC is continuing to fail on the pitch and I can not wish for that. That restricts CCFC income, but would CCFC going bust be that great a worry to SISU?
In reality what pressure is there on SISU that they feel, or makes them uncomfortable.
Got to keep an open mind - not just jump at the assumption regime change is near. Reality is little has actually changed, certainly SISU's objectives haven't. Is their driver the club or their investment/money? it isn't the club I feel
has their (SISU) bank balance changed the clubs may have but if owners not putting more in how has theirs ccfcway?
i hear what you say Kingokings but where do they take it after the petition dies down, where do they take their campaign in say a months time, when say results have hopefully improved and there is nothing else to come out? Aside from repeating stuff that ultimately people say oh not again what is next because if there is nothing else nothing has changed.
While my preference is always for business not to be done through the press this is a rare occasion where it would make sense. Any potential new owner, with even a vague hint of credibility, would be welcomed with open arms. Surely knowing there was someone to take over and getting rid of SISU didn't risk the end of CCFC would massively help the CT campaign. The fact that we've not even heard a rumour and the CT are not responding to any questions regarding potential new owners indicates to me there's nobody waiting in the wings to save us.If the CT knew something about potential owners/investors they'd be printing it to the moon. Every day there'd be a headline about "new saviours".
While my preference is always for business not to be done through the press this is a rare occasion where it would make sense. Any potential new owner, with even a vague hint of credibility, would be welcomed with open arms. Surely knowing there was someone to take over and getting rid of SISU didn't risk the end of CCFC would massively help the CT campaign. The fact that we've not even heard a rumour and the CT are not responding to any questions regarding potential new owners indicates to me there's nobody waiting in the wings to save us.
Feels like something is happening, I'm not sure it's anything good though.
Why won't wasps kick us out? Wasps will do whatever CCC ask them so then in the future wasps can cash in the favour when they need the council's help.I know everyone hopes something is going to happen and that SISU will be on their way but what has actually changed. So some thoughts.
- They are seeking planning permission on Ryton and a proposal is included in the RBC 15 year plan - so hardly imminent so no sale soon planning could take many months/years
- They are apparently looking to be a tenant at BPA which hasn't even started to be developed - again not imminent but have a plan forward
- the Academy is under threat but apparently discussions were constructive and positive - still time to save the Academy if they want to
- We still have agreement to play at Ricoh until end of 2017/18 season - so pressing but not urgent. I doubt Wasps would actually kick us out so long as it doesn't cost them to have us there. PR aspect of kicking CCFC out would be very negative
- There is a petition that has in 3 days reached short of 13000 signatures nationally - the owners are so remote from the situation will it really affect them (that is not me saying we should do nothing btw I signed the first day). Have the CT in part used the fans unrest at poor results and built on it? Is it based on something going on in the background about changing ownership or is it something else say of a legal nature, or just plain old selling papers
- This squeeze being put on SISU is really primarily on CCFC hoping to squeeze SISU - but if SISU as I suspect have taken a lot of the losses on investment what more is there to lose if they are not putting any new money in
- does/can the stuff about the Academy, Ryton, BPA get spun in a certain way to convince the FL & FA that the club and owners are doing all they can but keep being blocked, that the fans don't understand what SISU have had to put up with - so keep pressure from regulators off
The thing that will really make the difference and create pressure for CCFC is continuing to fail on the pitch and I can not wish for that. That restricts CCFC income, but would CCFC going bust be that great a worry to SISU?
In reality what pressure is there on SISU that they feel, or makes them uncomfortable.
Got to keep an open mind - not just jump at the assumption regime change is near. Reality is little has actually changed, certainly SISU's objectives haven't. Is their driver the club or their investment/money? it isn't the club I feel
I know everyone hopes something is going to happen and that SISU will be on their way but what has actually changed. So some thoughts.
- They are seeking planning permission on Ryton and a proposal is included in the RBC 15 year plan - so hardly imminent so no sale soon planning could take many months/years
- They are apparently looking to be a tenant at BPA which hasn't even started to be developed - again not imminent but have a plan forward
- the Academy is under threat but apparently discussions were constructive and positive - still time to save the Academy if they want to
- We still have agreement to play at Ricoh until end of 2017/18 season - so pressing but not urgent. I doubt Wasps would actually kick us out so long as it doesn't cost them to have us there. PR aspect of kicking CCFC out would be very negative
- There is a petition that has in 3 days reached short of 13000 signatures nationally - the owners are so remote from the situation will it really affect them (that is not me saying we should do nothing btw I signed the first day). Have the CT in part used the fans unrest at poor results and built on it? Is it based on something going on in the background about changing ownership or is it something else say of a legal nature, or just plain old selling papers
- This squeeze being put on SISU is really primarily on CCFC hoping to squeeze SISU - but if SISU as I suspect have taken a lot of the losses on investment what more is there to lose if they are not putting any new money in
- does/can the stuff about the Academy, Ryton, BPA get spun in a certain way to convince the FL & FA that the club and owners are doing all they can but keep being blocked, that the fans don't understand what SISU have had to put up with - so keep pressure from regulators off
The thing that will really make the difference and create pressure for CCFC is continuing to fail on the pitch and I can not wish for that. That restricts CCFC income, but would CCFC going bust be that great a worry to SISU?
In reality what pressure is there on SISU that they feel, or makes them uncomfortable.
Got to keep an open mind - not just jump at the assumption regime change is near. Reality is little has actually changed, certainly SISU's objectives haven't. Is their driver the club or their investment/money? it isn't the club I feel
Nothing much has changed recently apart from some body giving an order at the telegraph isn't it?
If we were top 6 would it happen? Even with same politics.
There's a lot more to the recent goings on
and a MD going
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