fatso
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If Boris fucks up, he will be removed before the next election.
Realistically, labour are out of office for a minimum of 10 years, probably longer.
They have become the Bolton wanderers of the political world.
If Boris fucks up, he will be removed before the next election.Johnson for 5 years is the best thing for Labour, without the Scottish votes, it’s going to be tough to secure a majority in the next election but Johnson can be that catalyst as he will surely f**k it up, he won’t be able to help himself.
Johnson for 5 years is the best thing for Labour, without the Scottish votes, it’s going to be tough to secure a majority in the next election but Johnson can be that catalyst as he will surely f**k it up, he won’t be able to help himself.
Brexit will be the biggest thing - if it's unsuccessful people will look to blame the Tories saying they made a poor job of it rather than it being flawed outright. With a potential Irish border and Scot independence argument (which Alexander will inevitably offend the Scots in at some point) added to the mix it could be a massive problem.
Speaking of such Alexander is arguably their greatest weapon - he inevitably lets people down and exploits people. The longer he stays in the job the more incapable he will show himself to be and even he will eventually run out of goodwill with the posh buffoon shtick.
Cameron nor any Minister doesn't decide on the boundaries. I think I am right in saying that parliament itself requests reviews, the government of the day at the last request for the 2018 changes pushed & got accepted to reduce the number of constituencies to 600.It depends if they make those boundary changes Cameron wanted to make, which would make it harder for labour to win.
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As a member I'm going to leave myself open minded at the moment and try to allow the candidates a chance to prove themselves capable of leadership.
Phillips I'm not keen on due to her seemingly being more concerned with infighting than holding the government to account over the last few years and there is no point jumping from one divisive candidate to another.
I like Starmer and feel like he has the potential to come across as statesmanlike and competent opposite Johnson but will need to drop the remain position.
Long-Bailey I like but even as a leftist I think the party could to with a step or two back to the centre.
Nandy, not that far back to the centre.
Rayner I think could do a good job in Labour heartlands and if the stratefy is to win those back before moving forward would be a good choice but feel she'd get a roasting from the Tory press.
But as I said, all of that could change and I am trying to be open about the process.
On a side note I find the talk from the anti-Corbyn side of the party about people joining now so they can reject the direction of the party from the last few years leaves a bitter taste. These are the exact people the orchestrated the disenfranchisement of thousands of people in the 2016 leadership election anybody they thought may have supported Corbyn because of a multitude inane reasons. A friend of mine was refused a vote for voting green in 2010 for example. I'm very much not saying the same should be done to people expected to vote for centrist candidates but someone calling for this would likely be a divisive candidate which is not what we need.
You really have no idea do you
Horrible excuse for a human being,So far up her own arse it’s unbelievable.Well now it seems Emily Thornberry is taking legal action over Caroline Flint and her tweets which basically call her a condescending cow for sneering at Leave voters
Thornberry really is an absurd character - this I’m sure will forward the labour cause immensely
I feel Jess Phillip's would be eaten alive by the tories. She's definitely not up to the task of leading an international political party.Keir Starmer....who seemed to go very quiet towards the end of the campaign.
Jess Phillips. A Midlander who is not afraid to speak.
Lisa Nandy...the not so obvious choice.
I feel Jess Phillip's would be eaten alive by the tories. She's definitely not up to the task of leading an international political party.
Could you honestly imagine her being the voice of Great Britain on the world stage?
Why not? Because she hasn't been to Eton?I feel Jess Phillip's would be eaten alive by the tories. She's definitely not up to the task of leading an international political party.
Could you honestly imagine her being the voice of Great Britain on the world stage?
John McDonnell went to a £36,000 a year private schoolWhy not? Because she hasn't been to Eton?
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You really have no idea do you
I know you don't care about the union but support for independence was already at 50% during the election and Johnson's election will send that higher. Polling from NI also shows that ramming through a crap Brexit will send support for reunification through the roof over there. When even the DUP are forced to admit that the deal is a pile of shit the feeling more broadly will be a disaster.
Will be interesting to see which lasts longer out of Tory governments or the union
What's that got to do with Jess Phillip's?John McDonnell went to a £36,000 a year private school
What's that got to do with Jess Phillip's?
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Again the union would have been down the plug hole under Corbyn you honestly have zero idea. I cannot believe the Scots would ever be dumb enough to ever vote to leave the UK - it would be a humiliating catastrophe that would end up with them crawling back
If Johnson was an opportunistic politician he’d want them gone wouldn’t he as it would solidify a Tory government for years and years to come?
She isn't dumb.It has to do with your strange obsession about people from Eton - McDonnell has been pulling strings and he is an epitome of wealth and luxury. Jess Phillips is a loose cannon and pretty dumb
She isn't dumb.
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Wtf has going to Eton got to do with anything.Why not? Because she hasn't been to Eton?
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Zero leadership lol. Have you actually got anything positive to say about anyone?She has zero leadership ability and anyway is abhorrent to momentum who control labour
Zero leadership lol. Have you actually got anything positive to say about anyone?
Momentum need to be sidelined, the party needs a leader who will kick them to the kerb.
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Zero leadership lol. Have you actually got anything positive to say about anyone?
Momentum need to be sidelined, the party needs a leader who will kick them to the kerb.
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66% of Boris's cabinet went to private school (twice Mays), and only 6.5% of people go to private school. Hardly representative of the country we live in. Loads of etonites in leading political roles with a sense of entitlement.Wtf has going to Eton got to do with anything.
Sounds to me that you may have a chip on the old shoulder!
66% of Boris's cabinet went to private school (twice Mays), and only 6.5% of people go to private school. Loads of etonites in leading political roles with a sense of entitlement.
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You mean like Angela Rayner?So what? The public clearly believe that’s a better choice than a dumb twat who barely made 2 A levels?
You mean like Angela Rayner?
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On a side note this is a really interesting article.
Why boarding schools produce bad leaders
Why boarding schools produce bad leaders
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It shouldn't matter what school you go to but unfortunately the way social mobility works it does.Well many sneer that Brexit voters are less educated. I think Mr Johnson was more educated at 16 than Rayner is now. Does education matter or not?
It shouldn't matter what school you go to but unfortunately the way social mobility works it does.
Britain’s top jobs still in hands of private school elite, study finds
Britain’s top jobs still in hands of private school elite, study finds
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Again, what's that got to do with anything? I dont want mcdonnell as labour leader. This was about Jess Phillip's.You realise Mr McDonnell went to a boarding school?
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