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Jack Griffin

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Learning how to salute. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33578174

Palace is "disappointed", LOL. More like damn we got proper caught out!

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dutchman

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Its long been known that Edward VIII was a supporter of Hitler before the war, it was nothing unusual at the time. London streets were even draped with swastika flags for the funeral procession of the German ambassador to Britain.

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Many members of the British aristocracy held fascist beliefs their whole lives but suppressed these while the war was on.
There's no reason to think the future Queen was doing anything more than mimicking popular culture.
 

Houchens Head

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I've never trusted the Royals. They've all got shifty eyes! And they're all Krauts and Greeks!
 

lifeskyblue

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Now watch the 'establishment' on every TV channel making excuse after excuse


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armybike

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The photo and headline are totally out of context with the times as the Sun even acknowledge in their 'justification' to print -



Just an excuse to sell papers and get hits to their website. Next!
 
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Jack Griffin

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Now watch the 'establishment' on every TV channel making excuse after excuse


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Loads of them (establishment figures) have been wheeled out this morning to excuse these pictures and or attack the Sun.

While I don't think much of the Sun, I do think this story is a good illustration of why an hereditary monarchy is an outmoded model.
 

lifeskyblue

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Loads of them (establishment figures) have been wheeled out this morning to excuse these pictures and or attack the Sun.

While I don't think much of the Sun, I do think this story is a good illustration of why an hereditary monarchy is an outmoded model.

No I never buy the sun but this shows value of free press etc. not really much of a story but you are right shows this outdated institution to be what it is.


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Ashdown

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FFS, Elizabeth was a 7 year old little girl, you can point some fingers at the adults but not the kids you morons !
 

chiefdave

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The Sun prints a lot of crap but this has got to be right up there. Who cares what a 7 year old kid did in 1933?
 
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Huckerby

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People love an excuse to slap off the monarchy. Don't they bring in more in tourism revenue the they cost? Sounds like a winner to me

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LastGarrison

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More sensationalist bollocks with no context to the story at all and as the chief says who really cares what a kid did nearly 80 years ago?
 

Grendel

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Loads of them (establishment figures) have been wheeled out this morning to excuse these pictures and or attack the Sun.

While I don't think much of the Sun, I do think this story is a good illustration of why an hereditary monarchy is an outmoded model.

Indeed - Lets have President Blair as a full grown adult having tea and sandwiches with terrorists responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent UK citizens.
 

Otis

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Indeed - Lets have President Blair as a full grown adult having tea and sandwiches with terrorists responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent UK citizens.


I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that it's not compulsory to have Blair if we don't have a queen.
 

Grendel

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I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that it's not compulsory to have Blair if we don't have a queen.

It's pretty compulsory you have a politician of one of the major parties who is no longer prime minister. It's also pretty compulsory most of these will side with autocrats and terrorists when it suits.

Grow up. Presidents are more corruptible than royalty.
 

Otis

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It's pretty compulsory you have a politician of one of the major parties who is no longer prime minister. It's also pretty compulsory most of these will side with autocrats and terrorists when it suits.

Grow up. Presidents are more corruptible than royalty.
Grow up? Dear me, Grendel. Never ever had you down as the petulant, childish type.

It was a light hearted comment and like I said, not having the Queen doesn't mean we have to have Blair.

Heat making you grumpy?

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Jack Griffin

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People love an excuse to slap off the monarchy. Don't they bring in more in tourism revenue the they cost? Sounds like a winner to me

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I'm completely happy for them to play Mickey & Donald in Royal Disneyland as long as it benefits the exchequer, their net profitability isn't justification for the the monarch to be head of state.
 
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More sensationalist bollocks with no context to the story at all and as the chief says who really cares what a kid did nearly 80 years ago?

Ermmm.. the story is about her uncle.. the bloke they shipped out to the Bahamas during the war to keep him out of mischief.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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People love an excuse to slap off the monarchy. Don't they bring in more in tourism revenue the they cost? Sounds like a winner to me

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i think the keeper of the privy purse needs a new calculator as he is miles out on the cost and I think the two hundred million figure is way below, surely there must be somewhere that they keep the exact costs, I would imagine their security costs run into tens of millions alone but that will be accounted elsewhere.
 
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Huckerby

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i think the keeper of the privy purse needs a new calculator as he is miles out on the cost and I think the two hundred million figure is way below, surely there must be somewhere that they keep the exact costs, I would imagine their security costs run into tens of millions alone but that will be accounted elsewhere.

That is with the extra costs.

It's £33 million per year according to the family themselves in direct costs, but then the £200 million is when you take into the extra crap like security etc
 
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Always a daft argument that the monarchy brings in tourism, like nobody visits Versailles or other places.
 
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Anyway, I'm no Royalist(!) but can't help agreeing with the Palace's statement.

That said, from a historical POV it's interesting how things that are commonplace and are accepted can take on an entirely different meaning in a different context. Shame it's the Sun releasing it to sell papers tbh, as it *is* interesting.

At a somewhat large tangent, here's something else that was accepted as a colour, but takes on a whole other meaning nowadays;
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There's always the danger that we take on an enlightenment view and decide we're all so much better nowadays, but if we use such things to show taking things for granted can be a bit dangerous, it's no bad thing.
 

Otis

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Always a daft argument that the monarchy brings in tourism, like nobody visits Versailles or other places.

Yep! My exact argument too. As if people would stop visiting Buckingham Palace or other royal residence.

in fact, if these places were all vacant and the public were given more access, I dare say they would be even more popular as tourist destinations.
 

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