bigfatronssba
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Wasps are a Rugby team, Ccfc are a football team. To compare their financial models doesn't work.
The most successful sports team in this city doesn't own its venue.
The same as we keep hearing about why Wasps had to move I guess from the same people who are saying we have to stay at the Ricoh and Rent off Wasps...
Overall it costs less to build a big stadium than it does to build a small, and then expanded stadium.
Wasps are a Rugby team, Ccfc are a football team. To compare their financial models doesn't work.
The most successful sports team in this city doesn't own its venue.
If SISU left, the crowd would come back. Could anyone try to disprove it?
If SISU left, the crowd would come back. Could anyone try to disprove it?
If SISU left, the crowd would come back. Could anyone try to disprove it?
Surely it would make no sense financially to build a whopping great big stadium for the PL while we are in League One? Surely you would build it with expansion and growth in mind to make it easily upgradeable during a close season if we got promoted.
You keep going on about Wasps being interested to help and your figures but in all honesty it is just feeding as much bullshit.
You are saying it would make sense to build a PL standard stadium straight away to fit 12,000 fans in on a good day?
Not sure I ever base my support on the "proclamations of the owners" - they are all usually chancers or bullshitters in my experieince. Support is a lot more fundamental than that - you go because you go. If you choose not to then fine as well, but please dont justify it by blaming anyone else.
Some seasons at the RSC re shit - Im not going to fork out for the fucking Winters Tale or Pericles or a Russian version of Cymbeline but I dont BLAME the owners of the RSC do I?
No-one can prove it either way.
If I had to guess though, I would say that people would not come back in their droves because they have already got used to doing something else.
The only way people will come back in numbers is if we have a winning team. Even if we get new owners, this will take a long time to achieve because of the state of what they would be inheriting from our current owners.
Surly new owners would breed back the trust and confidence that City fans have lost since the SISU saga begun?
..oh and who exactly would buy us whilst our stadium is owned for ever by Wasps?
So clubs only get taken over when they own their own ground?
Which ground did we own the last time we were taken over?
So clubs only get taken over when they own their own ground?
Which ground did we own the last time we were taken over?
And how does our future look if we stay at the Ricoh with zero income?
enough to sell 10,000 season tickets? dream on.
Not straightaway. no.
Surely it would make no sense financially to build a whopping great big stadium for the PL while we are in League One? Surely you would build it with expansion and growth in mind to make it easily upgradeable during a close season if we got promoted.
I just need to see the plan that includes expansion and financing.
You keep going on about Wasps being interested to help and your figures but in all honesty it is just feeding as much bullshit.
I don't know but at least ask them as they have inferred it's available. If they say no then tell us and we can see them for what they are.
You are saying it would make sense to build a PL standard stadium straight away to fit 12,000 fans in on a good day?
Show the final PL stadium then and as long as the new stadium 'is' expandable to 32K that will sell it to most fans.
why the specific mention of 10,000 season tickets? If you can't see why the fans have left, then you never will.
..oh and who exactly would buy us whilst our stadium is owned for ever by Wasps?
It would take a few months, but it would progress as long as we had owners who were the opposite of SISU, I.E transparent with us. Owners who care about their support.
The same people who would buy us with the stadium owned by Sisu.
We will NEVER own our own stadium in the foreseeable future.
Even the new stadium will be owned by Sisu and rented back to us in some way. FFS get real.
So in the same way wasps don't own their stadium or Southampton or - well every other club you mean?
Cellino brought Leeds and they don't own Elland Road, or didn't at the time if they do now..
Any new owners(With the proviso of not changing our name or colours, and putting their money where there mouth is, plough in good money to buy good
players unlike SISU, would get my vote and I would end my self inflicted exile and attend all home, and away games again.) and yes, I think there would be an almost immediate return of self exiled fans to the tune of about 18-20k. my opinion of course, but it's as good as anyone elses guys
Because unlike you, we have to start with a realistic number. If we were to have 12-14000 season ticket holders this could mean average gates of 15k-18k, sort of where we were in the early Ricoh years.
Our problem has long been converting the walk up support into season tickets - no owner has grasped that - we needed to sell loads more STs when we moved to the Ricoh than we ever did but the club was greedy and charged too much initially.
Hence, we have been reliant for years on a fickle walk up which dries up far too easily when things are a bit grim on the pitch.
OR we could take your approach of thinking everything will suddenly be fine if SISU go. Like I said, dream on.
Swansea don't own their stadium the council does :facepalm:
So in the same way wasps don't own their stadium or Southampton or - well every other club you mean?
Let's not forget Man City.
No its on a lifetime lease to the management company. Also interestingly it sold some of the land around the stadium and gave an equal share of the proceeds of sale to the football club as in its view that was not breaching regulations that our council deemed they would be when creaming £60 million for the sale of the land to Tescos.
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