I think you'll find this is the view of No Future Without A Brain Cell - not mine.
SISU are taken action against ACL loan providers, in an effort to bankrupt ACL. Simple even for you grendel.
Lol !!
Where does he say this ?
Its just another one of your made up fantasies !
Unless he believed this scenario will happen he can't use it as an argument for ACL to negotiate. ACL are not the council.
Equally, the club were a basket case when the council had to act as lender of last resort and step in to save the Ricoh project. They would never have got funding for this from commercial lenders (they tried) on a paltry return of £1m per year - state aid by any other name. Funny how they club don't moan about that - it's called "having your cake and eating it" - not on.
Equally, the club were a basket case when the council had to act as lender of last resort and step in to save the Ricoh project. They would never have got funding for this from commercial lenders (they tried) on a paltry return of £1m per year - state aid by any other name. Funny how they club don't moan about that - it's called "having your cake and eating it" - not on.
Everyone knows that Acl is half owned by the council your ramblings don't make any sense !
Legally they are a separate company. So what anyway? Do you think the appeal will bankrupt ACL? If not it doesn't stop any talks does it?
Rob: Nothing has changed. The legal threat has always been an issue with sorting revenues.
What's happened is that Sisu are stating the same terms for a short term return as they were asking before for a long one.
Isn't the whole point of a short term deal to stop the damage while these finer details are sorted or a ground is built?
If Sisu were offering a return while negotiations were on going Id be all over it. But they're not. They're just restating the terms that lead to the fall out in the first place.
I wish all sides would realise this and refocus on a demand for a short term return immediately with no conditions from either side, rather than fall for this quite simple bait and switch.
What if negotiations break down?Lmfao !!
Your madder than a march hare if you really believe that negotiations and relationships can be rebuilt, whilst there is ongoing court actions ???
Lmfao !!
Your madder than a march hare if you really believe that negotiations and relationships can be rebuilt, whilst there is ongoing court actions ???
Accidentally liked this nonsense. The council loaned the club nothing. They invested in an asset that they kept.
Yes it would be as mad, as trying to get 590k in cash owed, when some of it had alreday paid by guarantors. It works both ways John.
Legally they are a separate company. So what anyway? Do you think the appeal will bankrupt ACL? If not it doesn't stop any talks does it?
Where did I mention anything about this ?
You must be the mad hare's twin !
Won't somebody think of the exclamation marks!
You're right. In a lot of ways, nothing has changed. But what has changed is, as I say, that there are no contracts in place anymore and there's also a lot of water under the bridge. The situation (i.e. with all sides in this) has gone from 'we're negotiating' to 'we're not talking and CCFC are in Northampton and say they're never coming back' to 'we might start negotiating again'. So it changed and then changed back I guess, minus the contracts.
Again, referring back to what I said earlier, and I think we might be agreeing on this...do either side actually want to do a deal? They're all playing a game. The key thing is if all sides can be gently or not-so-gently be brought to the table by anyone who can have an influence then we, the fans, could win that game. Or at least not lose..?
Are you deliberately thick or does it just come natural.ointlaugh:
You stated it wouldn't be great to negotiate whilst SISU have legal action pending against Council (ACL)
I have stated that from the opposing side it isn't great to negotiate whilst ACL are trying to get 590 when allegedly some of it has already been paid. I was highlighting, that both sides have some backing down to do, rather than you just posting it from your slanted view.
I obviously didn't realise you were too stupid to see past your blinkers, and really if anyone round here is mad its you, you clown.
Are you deliberately thick or does it just come natural.ointlaugh:
You stated it wouldn't be great to negotiate whilst SISU have legal action pending against Council (ACL)
I have stated that from the opposing side it isn't great to negotiate whilst ACL are trying to get 590 when allegedly some of it has already been paid. I was highlighting, that both sides have some backing down to do, rather than you just posting it from your slanted view.
I obviously didn't realise you were too stupid to see past your blinkers, and really if anyone round here is mad its you, you clown.
Moff, the fact is that if I was ACL, I wouldn't be happy to leave the judgement on the £590,000 to the FL - the FL are in SISU's back pocket.
Won't somebody think of the exclamation marks!
Won't somebody just think for themselves ?
The only reason there's any payment to be made in the first place is thanks to the Football League.
Moff, the fact is that if I was ACL, I wouldn't be happy to leave the judgement on the £590,000 to the FL - the FL are in SISU's back pocket.
Cringe
If you can only manage one word can suggest evening classes.
Was that a loan?Lol !!
So the club didn't have 50% of Acl and the F&b revenue ?
Legally sisu owe ACL nothing. It's the football league that inserted a clause saying that ACL should receive an amount. This amount will be determined on 7th august.
Maybe not but they did break a 40 million pound lease ?
Was that a loan?
Legally sisu owe ACL nothing. It's the football league that inserted a clause saying that ACL should receive an amount. This amount will be determined on 7th august.
Yes. You wonder why CCFC were even docked 10 points when the FL effectively guaranteed that the CVA wouldn't be agreed by promising £590k to ACL anyway.The only reason there's any payment to be made in the first place is thanks to the Football League.
If you can only manage one word can suggest evening classes.
No that company went into liquidation owing nothing. A new company now owns the club.
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