Next Season - General Changes (2 Viewers)

pusbccfc · Apr 19, 2015

Things you would change or add for the club next season.

1) Close the telegraph stand and open blocks 15-24. Move the JSB area to block 23. That number blocks in the tesco stand probably holds about 8000 or so, meaning it would be ample room for us.

2) Promote Block 15-16 as a more formal singing area. Cheapest tickets should be in them two blocks meaning they will be full every week. Also, a more attractive price for under 21s as that seems to be the block full (of youngsters) during cheap ticket offers.

3) Open up a shop in town with the Wasp, promoting tickets for both clubs(heard this is what both Wycombe and Wasps did previously). Aim To strike a deal with them which offers a discount on each others tickets.

4) Advertising and matchday ticket sales at Cov Station. A lot of people will travel from town next season on the trains. I think it would be a decent idea to make it easy for people to buy tickets before getting to the Ricoh. Not only this, but you may attract a few to go to the game, knowing they could hop on a train and be at the Ricoh in 5 minutes . Advertising fixtures at both Cov and Nuneaton station could be a good idea.

5) Create truthful plan for the club to follow. Stop messing the fans about and get them back on your side. Either sort out a new stadium in the immediate future, or work with the Wasps to ensure both clubs get the best possible deals. Spend a reasonable amount of money to develop this squad and back Mowbray with his ideas.

Philosoraptor · Apr 19, 2015

3) Open up a pub in town minus wasps where people could watch the City matches live (Would this be possible?). Charge entry fee which would include free travel to and from the Ricoh, crazy money for beer and have a shop connected where you can sell merchandise. Make pub the meeting place and hub for all things Sky Blues.

skybluekelly98 · Apr 19, 2015

(6) Volunteer (if wasps allow) to trial safe standing
(7) Sell cheap club merchandise outside stadium (flags, shirts, scarves) and have one game where every fan gets a free cov scarf like Bristol city did. Or just for St holders.
(8) Make pitch bigger so fans are closer to the game.

skybluekelly98 · Apr 19, 2015

(9) And how about a little bit of ticket promoting ingenuity like this:
Southend United came up with an original promotion to encourage fans to buy season tickets. Launched on the same day as the World Cup draw in December 2009, the club announced that supporters who purchased their season ticket early for 2010/2011 will get their money back if England win the World Cup in South Africa. The campaign was run on a limited budget, but maximised exposure through exploiting the local press, and used digital media such as text messaging and emails to alert fans to the offer. It is assumed that the promotion is somehow insured to cover for the eventuality of England winning and the club having to provide a refund to its fans.

The only time I can really think of us doing anything unique and creative was the text-a-sub during the Andy thorn season, which was a disaster. What ever happened to that? Can you still do it?

Sbarcher · Apr 19, 2015

Yes I think you can still text for a 6" Italian Melt.

skybluetony176 · Apr 19, 2015

Kids accompanied by an adult for a quid and a flat rate for under 18's of a fiver.

This will encourage families. For example, 2 adults at full ticket value and three kids for seven pounds = 5 empty seat's filled + extra revenue from car parking etc.

A flat rate of a fiver will encourage groups of under 18's to go as I'd imagine most under 18's can afford a fiver from there pocket money and/or it's not such a huge amount that parents won't mind giving it as extra pocket money if it means that there kids are getting out their bedrooms and doing something other than sitting on their iPhone or iPad living a virtual world.

If we can't get some retail space at the Ricoh then please please get a mobile shop. If you're going to keep telling us it's all about the revenue at least try and make it look like you mean it.

Otis · Apr 19, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
Kids accompanied by an adult for a quid and a flat rate for under 18's of a fiver.

This will encourage families. For example, 2 adults at full ticket value and three kids for seven pounds = 5 empty seat's filled + extra revenue from car parking etc.

A flat rate of a fiver will encourage groups of under 18's to go as I'd imagine most under 18's can afford a fiver from there pocket money and/or it's not such a huge amount that parents won't mind giving it as extra pocket money if it means that there kids are getting out their bedrooms and doing something other than sitting on their iPhone or iPad living a virtual world.

If we can't get some retail space at the Ricoh then please please get a mobile shop. If you're going to keep telling us it's all about the revenue at least try and make it look like you mean it.

Well yep.

If they can't get the revenue they need from the Ricoh, then they have to get it elsewhere. Been mentioned many a time before. Open a supporters club, or a venue, that is Sky Blue themed and could be hired out for weddings and birthday parties etc.

As we are not getting a new stadium, we have to make this work. It's no use just saying it won't work. If it won't work as it is, then something else needs to be considered to bring revenue into the club.

Gynnsthetonic · Apr 19, 2015

What about a season ticket for £120 and then pay £5 on a match day

Huckerby · Apr 19, 2015

Gynnsthetonic said:
What about a season ticket for £120 and then pay £5 on a match day

I'd be well up for that

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

And it's no use saying "it will work". You say the all-year-round revenue argument is rubbish but it's easy saying put on birthday parties, etc. Where? We don't have a venue. OK, hold it at the Ricoh. Guess who is going to want a cut of that?

Open a supporters club? Genius.

Otis said:
Well yep.

If they can't get the revenue they need from the Ricoh, then they have to get it elsewhere. Been mentioned many a time before. Open a supporters club, or a venue, that is Sky Blue themed and could be hired out for weddings and birthday parties etc.

As we are not getting a new stadium, we have to make this work. It's no use just saying it won't work. If it won't work as it is, then something else needs to be considered to bring revenue into the club.

Grendel · Apr 19, 2015

Otis said:
Well yep.

If they can't get the revenue they need from the Ricoh, then they have to get it elsewhere. Been mentioned many a time before. Open a supporters club, or a venue, that is Sky Blue themed and could be hired out for weddings and birthday parties etc.

As we are not getting a new stadium, we have to make this work. It's no use just saying it won't work. If it won't work as it is, then something else needs to be considered to bring revenue into the club.

The point of the venue is its at the ground.

You say it's no point saying things won't work but likewise there is little point sticking your head in the sand and pretending there are viable alternatives to ground ownership.

Otis · Apr 19, 2015

torchomatic said:
And it's no use saying "it will work". You say the all-year-round revenue argument is rubbish but it's easy saying put on birthday parties, etc. Where? We don't have a venue. OK, hold it at the Ricoh. Guess who is going to want a cut of that?

Open a supporters club? Genius.

Torch, I'm not sure you read my post at all. At no point have I said it will work. I have said we have to make it work. Not the same thing at all. I just think we need to try and anything and everything.

Also, at no point have I said the all year round argument is rubbish. I think you are confusing me with another poster, as I have never, ever said that.

You sure you replied to the correct poster here?

And it's alright laughing at a supporters club. We have to try something, or would you rather we just stay where we are and keep saying what we have won't work, without ever trying anything else. These suggestions might be just a drop in the ocean, but we need to start somewhere.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Apr 19, 2015

How about selling seats from back to front, so we don't end up with pockets of empty seats.
Close telegraph stand
Bring away fans and home fans closer together

Otis · Apr 19, 2015

Grendel said:
The point of the venue is its at the ground.

You say it's no point saying things won't work but likewise there is little point sticking your head in the sand and pretending there are viable alternatives to ground ownership.

Well, Grendel, lots of people, like your good self, keep saying that we can never move forwards with what we have, us just being tenants and not receiving the revenue we need.

I'm not trying to pretend there are viable options, I am just saying we should look at everything and anything.

It's so easy for posters on here to just sneer and look down their noses at any suggestion made isn't it and of course these are just off the top of the head suggestions, not serious business plans. Just suggesting the club try and look to make revenue elsewhere if they are saying what we have won't work, surely is good thing isn't it?

Why do people sneer at any suggestion? Saddening.

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

No, not got youconfused. You've said you want to stay at the Ricoh. All we'll ever do at the Ricoh is survive, we won't thrive. Wasps have said they won't sell us any of ACL or - thank the Lord - buy us, so at the Ricoh the future is bleak.

I totally agree with the Supporters Club, great idea, but Supporters Clubs generally tend to be at the ground, don't they? We haven't got one. Even if we did buy a pub in the centre of the city and call it Coventry City Supporters Club Bar and Grill. Hardly anyone would go; NoPM, Cayman Islands, SISU, blah blah blah.

Nothing will happen whilst we are at the Ricoh. The best I think we can hope for is Mowbray stays and we manage to get some quick promotions.

And, I've always said, even if SISU left tomorrow I still think a new owner would look into a new stadium. Even Richardson from Wasps said a club needs it's own venue and year round revenue to thrive. They've got all the pie, we've got an empty plate.

Otis said:
Torch, I'm not sure you read my post at all. At no point have I said it will work. I have said we have to make it work. Not the same thing at all. I just think we need to try and anything and everything.

Also, at no point have I said the all year round argument is rubbish. I think you are confusing me with another poster, as I have never, ever said that.

You sure you replied to the correct poster here?

And it's alright laughing at a supporters club. We have to try something, or would you rather we just stay where we are and keep saying what we have won't work, without ever trying anything else. These suggestions might be just a drop in the ocean, but we need to start somewhere.

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

I've been in the same seat in the CT stand for ten years. Happy to move though to improve the atmosphere.

CCFC said:
How about selling seats from back to front, so we don't end up with pockets of empty seats.
Close telegraph stand
Bring away fans and home fans closer together

Ian1779 · Apr 19, 2015

2 free children season tickets for every adult one purchased.

Otis · Apr 19, 2015

torchomatic said:
No, not got youconfused. You've said you want to stay at the Ricoh. All we'll ever do at the Ricoh is survive, we won't thrive. Wasps have said they won't sell us any of ACL or - thank the Lord - buy us, so at the Ricoh the future is bleak.

I totally agree with the Supporters Club, great idea, but Supporters Clubs generally tend to be at the ground, don't they? We haven't got one. Even if we did buy a pub in the centre of the city and call it Coventry City Supporters Club Bar and Grill. Hardly anyone would go; NoPM, Cayman Islands, SISU, blah blah blah.

Nothing will happen whilst we are at the Ricoh. The best I think we can hope for is Mowbray stays and we manage to get some quick promotions.

And, I've always said, even if SISU left tomorrow I still think a new owner would look into a new stadium. Even Richardson from Wasps said a club needs it's own venue and year round revenue to thrive. They've got all the pie, we've got an empty plate.

Yes, I have said I want to stay in the Ricoh. Will never ever deny that. I think it's a great stadium and most importantly, is in Coventry. That is obviously a massively important point.

You have me confused though, Torch, because I have never said the all year round revenue requirement is rubbish. I just haven't said that.

All I am saying is that I think we all pretty much agree Sisu will not build a new stadium. Therefore all we have is the Ricoh. That's it, nowt else. We therefore have to make it work, or at least do something to make the situation more palatable.

The Penguin · Apr 19, 2015

Sbarcher said:
Yes I think you can still text for a 6" Italian Melt.

Would it be more of a goalscoring threat than Nick Proschwitz?

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

I know. I am pointing out (obviously not very well) that it's contradictory. Staying at the Ricoh will never give us the all year round revenue.

There's no way in the world you can "make" anything work.

And I tend to agree that SISU probably won't build a new stadium which is why I think our future looks very, very bleak. On the one hand the Ricoh is a nice stadium, on the other, we don't and won't get anything out of it. We don't benefit from it. It's not like we can say we fill the place every week, is it?

Otis said:
Yes, I have said I want to stay in the Ricoh. Will never ever deny that. I think it's a great stadium and most importantly, is in Coventry. That is obviously a massively important point.

You have me confused though, Torch, because I have never said the all year round revenue requirement is rubbish. I just haven't said that.

All I am saying is that I think we all pretty much agree Sisu will not build a new stadium. Therefore all we have is the Ricoh. That's it, nowt else. We therefore have to make it work, or at least do something to make the situation more palatable.

chinamans view · Apr 19, 2015

pusbccfc said:
Things you would change or add for the club next season.

1) Close the telegraph stand and open blocks 15-24. Move the JSB area to block 23. That number blocks in the tesco stand probably holds about 8000 or so, meaning it would be ample room for us.

2) Promote Block 15-16 as a more formal singing area. Cheapest tickets should be in them two blocks meaning they will be full every week. Also, a more attractive price for under 21s as that seems to be the block full (of youngsters) during cheap ticket offers.

3) Open up a shop in town with the Wasp, promoting tickets for both clubs(heard this is what both Wycombe and Wasps did previously). Aim To strike a deal with them which offers a discount on each others tickets.

4) Advertising and matchday ticket sales at Cov Station. A lot of people will travel from town next season on the trains. I think it would be a decent idea to make it easy for people to buy tickets before getting to the Ricoh. Not only this, but you may attract a few to go to the game, knowing they could hop on a train and be at the Ricoh in 5 minutes . Advertising fixtures at both Cov and Nuneaton station could be a good idea.

5) Create truthful plan for the club to follow. Stop messing the fans about and get them back on your side. Either sort out a new stadium in the immediate future, or work with the Wasps to ensure both clubs get the best possible deals. Spend a reasonable amount of money to develop this squad and back Mowbray with his ideas.

I Sit in the Teleghraph Stand always have since first match (season ticket) if they close that I really wont go anymore. If they play good football the people will return. You might as well go to Northampton they have a ground with 3 sides if you like that.

Irish Sky Blue · Apr 19, 2015

I think the worst thing is seeing huge swathes of empty sky blue seats ( would be much worse if they were yellow and black however). It would be great to have City fans behind both goals. This would require closing off the upper parts of all stands except main stand where boxes etc are located. However the sticking point for seats behind the Tesco end goal would seem to rest with decisions from police and stadium safety people who seem reluctant to open this area to home fans after incidents when Preston fans were abused a few years ago. Having a greater concentration of our fans closer to the pitch with all areas open would get my vote.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Apr 19, 2015

chinamans view said:
I Sit in the Teleghraph Stand always have since first match (season ticket) if they close that I really wont go anymore. If they play good football the people will return. You might as well go to Northampton they have a ground with 3 sides if you like that.

You can't be serious? Pathetic mate!

stupot07 · Apr 19, 2015

pusbccfc said:
Things you would change or add for the club next season.

3) Open up a shop in town with the Wasp, promoting tickets for both clubs(heard this is what both Wycombe and Wasps did previously). Aim To strike a deal with them which offers a discount on each others tickets.

Completely disagree with this idea - further loss of identity, brand, etc

lordsummerisle said:
This is a very interesting article about Wycombe Wanderers and Wasps relationship at Adams Park.

http://www.shoot.co.uk/category/team/wycombe-to-go-it-alone/

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Otis · Apr 19, 2015

torchomatic said:
I know. I am pointing out (obviously not very well) that it's contradictory. Staying at the Ricoh will never give us the all year round revenue.

There's no way in the world you can "make" anything work.

And I tend to agree that SISU probably won't build a new stadium which is why I think our future looks very, very bleak. On the one hand the Ricoh is a nice stadium, on the other, we don't and won't get anything out of it. We don't benefit from it. It's not like we can say we fill the place every week, is it?

No, get that, Torch. Problem is, we have no choice. We are at the Ricoh and if our club won't build a new stadium, then here we stay.

When I say make it work, I simply mean we have to try to make it work. We can't make anything happen without help from elsewhere (Wasps, CCC), but we have to try to make it work.

What other choice is there?

chinamans view · Apr 19, 2015

Build a new ground with only 2 stands and save Sisu millions that's what most of you would like you can sit all together then . I like the way the ground is now sit were you like Im also proud that we play in such a fantastic stadium. that most clubs would love to have. Play good football and you will have the ground full , ask Jimmy Hill if he could fill the stadium .

stupot07 · Apr 19, 2015

chinamans view said:
Build a new ground with only 2 stands and save Sisu millions that's what most of you would like you can sit all together then . I like the way the ground is now sit were you like Im also proud that we play in such a fantastic stadium. that most clubs would love to have. Play good football and you will have the ground full , ask Jimmy Hill if he could fill the stadium .

Even with food football we will not fill the stadium whilst we're in league one, unless people needed ticket Stubs for wembley/play offs, or we were going to be crowned champions.

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pusbccfc · Apr 19, 2015

stupot07 said:
Completely disagree with this idea - further loss of identity, brand, etc

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Decent article. I'm not suggesting we should integrate clubs and sell half and half merchandise etc. What I'm trying to say is, that we could work just a little harder with the Wasps. No doubt they are attracting crowds we could only dream of right now, many of which probably have an association with CCFC.

pusbccfc · Apr 19, 2015

skybluekelly98 said:
(6) Volunteer (if wasps allow) to trial safe standing
(7) Sell cheap club merchandise outside stadium (flags, shirts, scarves) and have one game where every fan gets a free cov scarf like Bristol city did. Or just for St holders.
(8) Make pitch bigger so fans are closer to the game.

Wasps would allow safe standing, but the FA wouldn't allow us to use it.

pusbccfc · Apr 19, 2015

chinamans view said:
I Sit in the Teleghraph Stand always have since first match (season ticket) if they close that I really wont go anymore. If they play good football the people will return. You might as well go to Northampton they have a ground with 3 sides if you like that.

The problem is, the telegraph looks and sounds awful. It is the stand that has suffered the biggest drop in crowds.

I sat there for the first time in 7 years in the second half of the Swindon game and could see why anyone would want to sit there right now.

I used to love sitting behind the goal at football, but unfortunately I'd prefer to have an atmosphere.

italiahorse · Apr 19, 2015

Stadium Changes
Close all the corners (Blocks 4,5,14,15,25,26). Restrict seats above the steps in North and South stands.
Make North stand and existing Family area a kids go free area with a paying adult. Block access between North and East stand at Block 15 to stop transfers into East stand.
Increase kids pre match activities/entertainment, seek volunteers to help with specific skills.

From Sisu point of view.
- Try to extend existing deal with agreed escalations for Championship and Premier League. Also, maximise football related incomes where it becomes a win win for both Wasps and CCFC.
- Develope the grass area between the stadium and Tescos (Next to station) with all the things Sisu/fans say they need. Halls, office facilities, hotel ?, club shop, ticket office (tied into Ricoh system). Prematch Fanszone etc etc. CCC need to play their part in this.
- Close the Gallagher "Superstore".
- A lot of the corporate and television incomes are not available at league 1 level so a push is needed for the Championship to up our visibility.
- In such, keep Mowbray. Review the players, particularly as what I saw at Bristol has made me rethink on the ability of our players.
- Communicate better with the fans. Apologise for Northampton and wasted years. Drop the new stadium and JR nonsense saying they were misguided or make up any apologetic get out to save their face.
- Make a clear positive statement for the future. If necessary, say they are not 100% happy but will give it their best efforts.

Fans (relies on above)
- Take on board the Sisu apology, their statement for the future, forgive them and then get behind the team in every way they can. Encourage others, particularly the kids. Volunteer for Sisu initiatives.

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

The football club will also get more publicity locally and will re-gain their place as the town’s premier sports team. They won’t be fighting for column inches in the local newspaper and, perhaps crucially, nor will they be competing for ticket sales with the townsfolk. When Wasps first came to Wycombe, their success coincided with a downturn in fortunes for Wycombe who were relegated within the Football League for the first time in their history in 2004. Some fans drifted from watching a badly performing lower league football club to watching a rugby side that were at one time touted as the best club rugby side in the world. Some persevered with Wanderers, some ‘doubled up’ and supported both, some drifted and have stayed with Wasps and some moved from Wycombe to Wasps before giving up altogether (no doubt prompted by a downturn in Wasps’ fortunes and an upturn in ticket prices). The exact figures are, again, somewhat obscure, but there is little denying that from December onwards, Wycombe Wanderers being the only opportunity for local sports fans to watch professional sport, will be a good thing for the football club.

rupert_bear · Apr 19, 2015

Invest in Tony Mowbray and the team and there will be no need to close any corners

torchomatic · Apr 19, 2015

Personally, I only think fans will come back if we are top five. Even if we were playing well and top ten - with Mowbray and investment - then we would struggle to attract numbers on a regular basis. Yes, ok we can fill the place on "occasions", but not regularly.

Vicious circle, no fans, no investment, no investment, no fans.

rupert_bear said:
Invest in Tony Mowbray and the team and there will be no need to close any corners

chiefdave · Apr 19, 2015

That whole article was pretty depressing wasn't it torch. Thing is there's nothing in it you can't see happening to us, if anything we'll be worse off as we're tenants not landlord. You look at things like that article and the fate Stockport have suffered, the only other club I can think of who are in the same position as us - renting of a rugby club, and being a club that manages to stick around L1 looks like the brightest possible future for us.

A lot of suggestions to move forward seem to involve either dropping prices, simply not possible in our situation - its our only decent revenue stream, or starting new businesses from scratch hoping they make millions that can be diverted into the club. Even if you ignore the fact that its only a small number of new bussinesses who succeeded to that extent why would SISU, or any other owner in the future do this? They would have to invest money, and possibly lose it. If they wanted to run a sports bar or a car showroom they would and if it made money that would be the owners not ours. The sports bar idea is great but it only really works if its at the Ricoh, that either won't happen or will see a huge chuck of cash going to Wasps and not us. It illustrates exactly the problem we now have.

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