Next Sisu Out Protest? (2 Viewers)

Brylowes

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And this is exactly why the Trust would benefit from an unequivocal position on Wasps. Then everyone knows what they are signing up for.

It would unite the fans in a big way - then you can start co-ordinating from there.
But if the clubs main supporters group came out in confrontational style against them, do you think
That may influence them when / if Ricoh talks resume.
 

Nick

Administrator
But if the clubs main supporters group came out in confrontational style against them, do you think
That may influence them when / if Ricoh talks resume.

But the clubs main supporters club comes out against the club in confrontational style?

What people are alluding to is that we should let then get away with whatever they want. I guess it is the same for the council?
 

Ian1779

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But if the clubs main supporters group came out in confrontational style against them, do you think
That may influence them when / if Ricoh talks resume.

If Wasps/CCC refuse to negotiate because a supporters group has condemned them it tells you everything you need to know about said organisations and the clubs chance of interacting with them productively.
 

Brylowes

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But the clubs main supporters club comes out against the club in confrontational style?

What people are alluding to is that we should let then get away with whatever they want. I guess it is the same for the council?
Nick they come out in confrontational style against our owners BECAUSE they are our owners
And as such are the only ones capable of halting the downward spiral the club is on.
 

Brylowes

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If Wasps/CCC refuse to negotiate because a supporters group has condemned them it tells you everything you need to know about said organisations and the clubs chance of interacting with them productively.
I never said cause them to refuse to negotiate, just that it might have influence on their decision.
 

stupot07

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Nick they come out in confrontational style against our owners BECAUSE they are our owners
And as such are the only ones capable of halting the downward spiral the club is on.

But they're not though are they? There are always external factors that effect our position, and we're now at the mercy of wasps and CSF for the stadium and the academy. Its not all in sisus hands. Yet wasps, csf, acl, CCC get off scot free from any protest or criticism.

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Nick

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Nick they come out in confrontational style against our owners BECAUSE they are our owners
And as such are the only ones capable of halting the downward spiral the club is on.

Wrong again, they aren't are they? This is what people dont understand.
 

Brylowes

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But they're not though are they? There are always external factors that effect our position, and we're now at the mercy of wasps and CSF for the stadium and the academy. Its not all in sisus hands. Yet wasps, csf, acl, CCC get off scot free from any protest or criticism.

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And we are at the mercy of Wasps and CSF for the stadium and academy because of who.
 

Brylowes

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But I thought they werent at the mercy and it was all down to them?
Oh no, we're at the mercy of many, but I know who I blame for this and I know who you don't.
You wont change my mind, nor me yours, so it keeps going round 'n' round
 

Nick

Administrator
Oh no, we're at the mercy of many, but I know who I blame for this and I know who you don't.
You wont change my mind, nor me yours, so it keeps going round 'n' round

It's ok, we will be nice to Wasps in case they do nasty things to CCFC because we shouted at them. They will still be nice though.
 

Brylowes

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It's ok, we will be nice to Wasps in case they do nasty things to CCFC because we shouted at them. They will still be nice though.
Eh. I didn't know who WASPS were until SISU left the door open for them, the y have
Fucked up at every turn, it's just a matter of time before they snuff out the club they're
Supposed to be looking out for
 

Nick

Administrator
Eh. I didn't know who WASPS were until SISU left the door open for them, the y have
Fucked up at every turn, it's just a matter of time before they snuff out the club they're
Supposed to be looking out for

They are the ones who were discussing it with the council before we moved..

Again, you won't want to know if it doesnt mean shouting SISU out.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Eh. I didn't know who WASPS were until SISU left the door open for them, the y have
Fucked up at every turn, it's just a matter of time before they snuff out the club they're
Supposed to be looking out for
Just to reflect back on something... All the shit started when SISU had their chance to buy into the Ricoh but didn't.(In the beginning) Now everyman and his dog has to pay the piper.
 

Brylowes

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They are the ones who were discussing it with the council before we moved..

Again, you won't want to know if it doesnt mean shouting SISU out.
Nick I'm bored and your right, going out with the family now. :cigar:
 

Nick

Administrator
Just to reflect back on something... All the shit started when SISU had their chance to buy into the Ricoh but didn't.(In the beginning) Now everyman and his dog has to pay the piper.

They didn't have the chance for 100% and 250 years for less than 6 million... That is the point people are making.

People also forget the conditions that the councillors were given before voting.

People turn a blind eye to the council making promises the football club wont be damaged by wasps, because when it is damaged by wasps they just blame sisu anyway.
 

Monners

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Lets fill the stadium every home game. That is sure to persuade Sisu to rethink their strategy. Probably as much as shouting Sisu out will, or organising marches.

CCC are a disgrace and Wasps shouldn't be here - we all know this, and a protest against them will change their strategy also - or perhaps not

People are giving up as the downward spiral continues.
 

Brylowes

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They didn't have the chance for 100% and 250 years for less than 6 million... That is the point people are making.

People also forget the conditions that the councillors were given before voting.

People turn a blind eye to the council making promises the football club wont be damaged by wasps, because when it is damaged by wasps they just blame sisu anyway.
Yeah SISU successfully distressed ACL to the point wasps came in and got a great deal, incidentally
A deal TF said we would never have done.
 

Nick

Administrator
Lets fill the stadium every home game. That is sure to persuade Sisu to rethink their strategy. Probably as much as shouting Sisu out will, or organising marches.

CCC are a disgrace and Wasps shouldn't be here - we all know this, and a protest against them will change their strategy also - or perhaps not

People are giving up as the downward spiral continues.

The only way is pro ccfc. Show them all ccfc is bigger than SISU, bigger than WASPS etc.
 

skyblueinBaku

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The only way is pro ccfc. Show them all ccfc is bigger than SISU, bigger than WASPS etc.
I don't agree, Nick. Pro CCFC certainly, but anti-xxx can work if it is targetted properly.
 

skybluebeduff

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Why can't this protest be mixed with SISU OUT, Wasps and Council Out e.c.t, why aren't people bothered about raising their own concerns during the march? Anyone can easily join along with their own agendas to who has hurt CCFC the most.

That's the only reason why people do these protests, because they care about 1 thing, CCFC.

Instead of making 50,000 page long threads about the subject, why not be involved in it instead? And protest whoever you want to protest against, unless of course, you're happy the way the club is going?
 

Brylowes

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Why can't this protest be mixed with SISU OUT, Wasps and Council Out e.c.t, why aren't people bothered about raising their own concerns during the march? Anyone can easily join along with their own agendas to who has hurt CCFC the most.

That's the only reason why people do these protests, because they care about 1 thing, CCFC.

Instead of making 50,000 page long threads about the subject, why not be involved in it instead? And protest whoever you want to protest against, unless of course, you're happy the way the club is going?
Because SISU are the only one that you have a chance of ousting ( outside chance granted)
Wasps aren't going anywhere, they have a 250 year lease and look too be trying to grow
Their business in any way possible.
CCC can only be voted out at the ballot box, and given that the major decisions concerning
The football club were subject to cross party support, what difference would that make .
The only one the supporters can realistically challenge are the ones ultimately responsible
For the clubs wellbeing, apart from a dedicated educated group on here I think most realise
This.
 

Nick

Administrator
Because SISU are the only one that you have a chance of ousting ( outside chance granted)
Wasps aren't going anywhere, they have a 250 year lease and look too be trying to grow
Their business in any way possible.
CCC can only be voted out at the ballot box, and given that the major decisions concerning
The football club were subject to cross party support, what difference would that make .
The only one the supporters can realistically challenge are the ones ultimately responsible
For the clubs wellbeing, apart from a dedicated educated group on here I think most realise
This.

OK, you rock up and shout about stuff that hasn't happened and see who gets ousted...
 

Sky Blue Kid

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No they aren't. SISU are the people in London. CCFC are the players and manager on a matchday.
AAnnnnndddddd Who pays their wages? This shower of shit can fold this club with a click of their fingers. Then where is the Manager, and team on matchday???
 

Steve.B50

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If you don't scream SISU OUT at every single opportunity then somehow you're in collusion with them and are a SISU lover.

That's pretty much the held view at the Trust isn't it??

The view of the vast majority of Trust membership is very much that way of thinking and as a democratic group we have to go with the majority.
However, our membership may want new owners but we can still have good dialogue with them and generally we do, even though they are aware of the stance we have put in place.
Am sure you and most people still do business or communicate with people even if we do not like or trust them, personally I will happily talk to anyone if it is a benefit to me or my company..
 

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