In the fairness of debate, is there any comment from the Sixfileders to make any sense of this ?
It makes sense that both sides carry on as they would have until agreement is reached. It absolutely should not be a barrier. Its a bargaining chip and pretty much the only one SISU has left.
It is not a bargaining chip. ACL stated no negotiations until the appeal is dropped, and I for one
hope they stick to their guns .Sisu only know
how to bully people,well tough it's there turn to be bullied now. Tell sisu to hop it.
So what do you suppose is their plan Wingy? They've lost and they know it! Run where? And to what end?
Beggers my belief too. The woman who had a go at the whoever handed out the fix it signs on Wednesday springs to mind
If I owned the Club, I'd have appealed too!
This is not as black & white or simple as so many are trying to make out.
For all concerned, just wish it was.
"I cannot do anything about yesteryear or yesterday but I can influence tomorrow"!
I can't believe the naivety around this .
The timeline tells all.
Paying a mere £120k more to ACL on May 31st and talks before It got to Hickinbottom or his appeal refusal ,would have provided the window of opportunity Prior to kick off.. + £2.5-£3M.
They really want to come back ,no they want It to run and run.
Totally disingenuous ,how anyone can buy It and give that moron Fisher Oxygen is beyond me.
You miss the point, there will be no negotiations now.
Knock over ACL as always Samo .
Turn the negative on them for not doing a deal?
If they're forced to buy a plot of land ,sorry we had to ACL wouldn't have us back,you get the picture , and I forgot ,It's rally really personal.
The only reason to come back Is to carry fans along should they have to build never never land.
They havn't lost yet Samo.
When Grendel said they wanted to lose he was wrong but not by much,they don't mind not winning and probably expected It,which leaves them about a couple of years to exhaust It.
Can't agree Wingy. It terms of the Sixfields/new stadium bluff they have well and truly lost. Everyone and his dog (probably even Stuart Linnell) knows they won't build. Lost the JR alongside that and again, everyone knows that horse is dead despite today's announcement.
The plan now? Return to the Ricoh, claim face saving victory by securing part of revenues, build bridges, try eventually to buy in to ACL.
Their real victory of course is to have broken the rental deal and despite some emotional responses right now, CCFC fans might look at that a little differently with the benefit of hindsight.
Agree that the break of the rental deal can be the only positive if we return. But we need to return fast. They are playing a very dangerous game at the moment.
I'd respectfully suggest it is very easy. They can - remember - not produce new evidence. Only try and prove the judicial process itself was flawed.
Consecutive judges have been inequivalent and absolute in their rulings.
It doesn't have a cat in hell's chance. It's a continuing distressing tactic. That's it. You shouldn't pretend it's anything else
Can't agree Wingy. It terms of the Sixfields/new stadium bluff they have well and truly lost. Everyone and his dog (probably even Stuart Linnell) knows they won't build. Lost the JR alongside that and again, everyone knows that horse is dead despite today's announcement.
The plan now? Return to the Ricoh, claim face saving victory by securing part of revenues, build bridges, try eventually to buy in to ACL.
Their real victory of course is to have broken the rental deal and despite some emotional responses right now, CCFC fans might look at that a little differently with the benefit of hindsight.
Obviously you don't remember the initial Appeal that ultimately produced the Appeal.
Could go either way but 3 Senior Experienced Judges. Who knows?
Certainly not me!
Are you sure that wasn't seppala herself.
If I owned the Club, I'd have appealed too!
This is not as black & white or simple as so many are trying to make out.
For all concerned, just wish it was.
"I cannot do anything about yesteryear or yesterday but I can influence tomorrow"!
Agree that the break of the rental deal can be the only positive if we return. But we need to return fast. They are playing a very dangerous game at the moment.
If I owned the Club, I'd have appealed too!
This is not as black & white or simple as so many are trying to make out.
For all concerned, just wish it was.
"I cannot do anything about yesteryear or yesterday but I can influence tomorrow"!
Nick this is totally uncalled for and mine is just an informed opinion, not necessarily correct or right but far too many assumptions being made here by posters who need to be both more controlled and polite.
Nick this is totally uncalled for and mine is just an informed opinion, not necessarily correct or right but far too many assumptions being made here by posters who need to be both more controlled and polite.
Nick this is totally uncalled for and mine is just an informed opinion, not necessarily correct or right but far too many assumptions being made here by posters who need to be both more controlled and polite.
You should perhaps admit an appeal at this stage is very ill timed and hardly is thinking of the club or it's supporters.
Do you agree with me?
As has been clear all along it is the only bargaining tool they've got. Otherwise, to be frank, they're at the mercy of the not so generous ACL.
#CarlBakerDay #ClivePlattWeek #JohnGayleMonth
So if your opinion is so "informed" how can it NOT be necessarily be correct or right??
Sounds like more BS from you. Again!!
I hope you're right and we do return fast but I don't see how the game a dangerous one for SISU at the moment. Dangerous for the football club yes, but not SISU. Clarke, Arsenal and Wilson have been windfalls for them, they possibly view those windfall funds as sufficient to finance their endgame for another couple of seasons. Time to explore and exhaust every last avenue. During that time the quality of the squad will be irrelevant and relegation once or even twice won't matter. In the end I believe they will return maybe humiliated, or maybe not. To them the ends will always justify the means.
If I owned the Club, I'd have appealed too!
This is not as black & white or simple as so many are trying to make out.
For all concerned, just wish it was.
"I cannot do anything about yesteryear or yesterday but I can influence tomorrow"!
I don't think it's unreasonable to ask you to quantify your comments, especially as on the surface it appears to shut the door on a return.
If you know something... just tell everyone. If there is some good news to follow - don't you think we deserve to know?
We are all fans ccfc92. We may have differing opinions from time to time but all ultimately want what we believe is best for the club. Grendel for all his faults is a passionate fan who I believe was a season ticket holder for a number of years pre sixfields. You shouldn't be so surprised.
My original post to RFC has been removed by the thought police, I can only presume that he is crying foul again.
I do not recall anything that he has predicted with his insider knowledge ever coming true in the way he has said, but then again my mind maybe playing tricks on me??
No.
"I know something, but I'm not telling, as you're beneath me"
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