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Not one penny more - from sisu rent boys to super fans (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Jun 25, 2013
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magic82ball

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  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #176
CCFC said:
They had already invested in the team when they initially came in though and that didn't convince the fair weather supporters to attend did it.

Look at Derby who are always midtable championship average 29, 29, 26, 23 over the last 5 years
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They invested in the first year and then lost their bottle, also had the most uninspiring manager (and I include Thorn in that statement) in Coleman. In poker terms they folded at the flop when considering what was at stake and the squad we had, could have gone on much further.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #177
torchomatic said:
Rev, I can see your point. Maybe this season with SISU still in charge it will be different, but I seriously doubt it. We got 10K going to Old Trafford in the League Cup while in the Championship and if we said then that we'd get over 30K for the "tinpot" JPT while mid-table in L1, then people would have laughed, but we did.

No one knows for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Tickets were a fiver...bet there haven't been many semi-finals cheaper than that!
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #178
Grendel said:
The point which I am sure you well understand is James' view on not one penny more is not as relevant as people who attend regularly.

It is almost inevitable that there will be greater support from non attendees as they can join forces in a uniform approach to a cause that has no impact in their lifestyle.

Like it or not your revenue contribution to the club is negligible and that's a fact. The other fact that clearly comes out on this post is most who attend home games will still do so if the club stays at the Ricoh.

Also despite the mad vicars ludricous protestations it is very obvious that if at the Ricoh attendances will then be influenced by events on the pitch and not away from it.

Love the silly man put down you and the mad vicar are using by the way. Riminds me if that jumped up bank manager captain manwairing. Nice image.
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You spelt "reminds" wrong and Captain Mainwaring needs capitals. Shoddy work even by your grammatically catastrophic standards.
 
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SkyBlueSwiss

New Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #179
Grendel said:
The point which I am sure you well understand is James' view on not one penny more is not as relevant as people who attend regularly.

It is almost inevitable that there will be greater support from non attendees as they can join forces in a uniform approach to a cause that has no impact in their lifestyle.

Like it or not your revenue contribution to the club is negligible and that's a fact. The other fact that clearly comes out on this post is most who attend home games will still do so if the club stays at the Ricoh.

Also despite the mad vicars ludricous protestations it is very obvious that if at the Ricoh attendances will then be influenced by events on the pitch and not away from it.

Love the silly man put down you and the mad vicar are using by the way. Riminds me if that jumped up bank manager captain manwairing. Nice image.
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I was Captain Mainwaring using a time warp, and the Mad Vicar is me from another dimension. This unholy Trinity
As to crowds at the Ricoh, all I can say is wait and see. Truth is, not one of us knows what is going to happen. We are all guessing. My opinion is that SISU have alienated so many fans that many will not come back as long as they are involved. Your opinion is the opposite. None of us know, and we shall have to wait and see.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #180
I agree, but I still think there would have been a full house anyway, even if the prices had been £10 or £15.

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Tickets were a fiver...bet there haven't been many semi-finals cheaper than that!
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James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #181
SkyBlueSwiss said:
I was Captain Mainwaring using a time warp, and the Mad Vicar is me from another dimension. This unholy Trinity
As to crowds at the Ricoh, all I can say is wait and see. Truth is, not one of us knows what is going to happen. We are all guessing. My opinion is that SISU have alienated so many fans that many will not come back as long as they are involved. Your opinion is the opposite. None of us know, and we shall have to wait and see.
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I'm PWKH don't ya know, or I work in the ACL politburo in the Ministry for talking drivel.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #182
Grendel always pulls the "how many games you been to " card
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #183
Grendel said:
The point which I am sure you well understand is James' view on not one penny more is not as relevant as people who attend regularly.

It is almost inevitable that there will be greater support from non attendees as they can join forces in a uniform approach to a cause that has no impact in their lifestyle.

Like it or not your revenue contribution to the club is negligible and that's a fact. The other fact that clearly comes out on this post is most who attend home games will still do so if the club stays at the Ricoh.

Also despite the mad vicars ludricous protestations it is very obvious that if at the Ricoh attendances will then be influenced by events on the pitch and not away from it.

Love the silly man put down you and the mad vicar are using by the way. Riminds me if that jumped up bank manager captain manwairing. Nice image.
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Ah so it isn't about how much money you've handed over to the clowns in charge of our club, but how many home matches you've attended. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

It certainly will affect me as I've actually got to think of things to buy people for their birthday rather than just being lazy and just buying something from the club shop.

Oh by the way does anyone know did they ever produce a chocolate brown miki kit for the car window like this one which I found on Ebay?


Never seen one and despite searching Ebay there don't appear to be any on sale there. I'd like it to go with the one I've got.
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #184
Grendel have a sticker pal
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #185
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Tickets were a fiver...bet there haven't been many semi-finals cheaper than that!
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They were a fiver, yet some use the huge crowd we had there to suggest that there is some sort of huge latent support that the club and Sisu have failed to tap into.

If I was ACL, I wouldn't charge any rent at all, and offer around 25% of revenues to the club if they offered every game for £5.

Would be a winner all round(But ACL's offer actually put up the price by something like £4 per fan to the club for everyone over 15,000!)
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #186
I didn't go to the Crewe game. Too much riff-raff, I can only imagine the elbows jostling and making me spill my vermouth everywhere.

Or I did overtime and caught the third depressing goal on the radio, either or.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #187
Nonleagueherewecome said:
You spelt "reminds" wrong and Captain Mainwaring needs capitals. Shoddy work even by your grammatically catastrophic standards.
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I was on my phone. Still nice to know it is only the grammar that you can pick holes in.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #188
James Smith said:
Ah so it isn't about how much money you've handed over to the clowns in charge of our club, but how many home matches you've attended. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

It certainly will affect me as I've actually got to think of things to buy people for their birthday rather than just being lazy and just buying something from the club shop.

Oh by the way does anyone know did they ever produce a chocolate brown miki kit for the car window like this one which I found on Ebay?
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Never seen one and despite searching Ebay there don't appear to be any on sale there. I'd like it to go with the one I've got.
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The truth is that the vast majority of revenue generated is on matchdays. If as you say, you spend £200 every year on merchandise that is an exception.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #189
torchomatic said:
I agree, but I still think there would have been a full house anyway, even if the prices had been £10 or £15.
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Honestly, I think it would have been nearer to 20k. Did you see some of the people in that crowd?!? Sartorial elegance took a back-seat that night, that's for sure.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #190
lordsummerisle said:
They were a fiver, yet some use the huge crowd we had there to suggest that there is some sort of huge latent support that the club and Sisu have failed to tap into.

If I was ACL, I wouldn't charge any rent at all, and offer around 25% of revenues to the club if they offered every game for £5.

Would be a winner all round(But ACL's offer actually put up the price by something like £4 per fan to the club for everyone over 15,000!)
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Myself, I use the Leeds game in the league a few years ago for that.
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #191
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Myself, I use the Leeds game in the league a few years ago for that.
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How many were at the next game??
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #192
Grendel said:
I was on my phone. Still nice to know it is only the grammar that you can pick holes in.
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Well 99.9% of what you write is offensive tripe, but unlike some poor souls I'm above filthying my mind with engaging with it.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #193
lordsummerisle said:
How many were at the next game??
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We lost to Leeds...season downhill from that point on.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #194
hill83 said:
... Married?
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Ha ha brilliant......(yes I am married )
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #195
Nonleagueherewecome said:
We lost to Leeds...season downhill from that point on.
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I remember the optimism well, and then all the unpleasantness that followed. We always do that.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #196
valiant15 said:
Fecking hell, whats a blowjob??
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About £20 .
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #197
Grendel said:
The evidence is based on statistical analysis over 40 years comparing average crowds to what happens on cup runs. This has occurred every instance we have had success. What you are really saying if you actually stop and think for a second is that fans would not want to go to Wembley if they made it. What about a play off final? Same would be? No because a direct correlation exists between success and huge increases in attendances over half a century whoever the owner.

Stop making a fool of yourself and give up.
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In this 40 year period you mention did it include figures for when the club was in administration, or just after administration, as that is what we are talking about this season.
Its absolutely pointless and completely irrelevant you quoting a period when we were not in Admin.
So once again and hopefully it will go into that rather backward brain of yours, where is your evidence you clearly say is there ,where we would definitely get a sellout if we get to a semi final of the JPT cup whilst or just after admin and the ongoing fan protest
Please don't make me ask again as I won't give up
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #198
Grendel said:
Just remind me - how many home games did you attend last season?
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There he goes again, trying to belittle people's opinion. Your not allowe an opinion if you don't go to many games now.

How pathetic is this person
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #199
Grendel said:
The point which I am sure you well understand is James' view on not one penny more is not as relevant as people who attend regularly.

It is almost inevitable that there will be greater support from non attendees as they can join forces in a uniform approach to a cause that has no impact in their lifestyle.

Like it or not your revenue contribution to the club is negligible and that's a fact. The other fact that clearly comes out on this post is most who attend home games will still do so if the club stays at the Ricoh.

Also despite the mad vicars ludricous protestations it is very obvious that if at the Ricoh attendances will then be influenced by events on the pitch and not away from it.

Love the silly man put down you and the mad vicar are using by the way. Riminds me if that jumped up bank manager captain manwairing. Nice image.
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Here he goes again, he seem s to know that the nice man from Switzerland doesn't support the club either by attending any matches or he knows he doesn't buy any merchandise in any way

Bugger me this man is clever.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #200
The Reverend Skyblue said:
In this 40 year period you mention did it include figures for when the club was in administration, or just after administration, as that is what we are talking about this season.
Its absolutely pointless and completely irrelevant you quoting a period when we were not in Admin.
So once again and hopefully it will go into that rather backward brain of yours, where is your evidence you clearly say is there ,where we would definitely get a sellout if we get to a semi final of the JPT cup whilst or just after admin and the ongoing fan protest
Please don't make me ask again as I won't give up
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I have provided evidence and we won't be in administration next March will we which was my scenario. Strangely no one seems to be backing you up either do they?

Ask some others on here then - do a poll if you like -- you won't as the response will not be in your favour. The match would be a passport to Wembley or are you saying that no one would want to go there under SISU? How about Play off Finals? No not bothered I suppose as the NOPM crusade takes its icy grip.

Keep throwing juvenile insults at me as well. It's a bit like Benny from Crossroads trying to challenge the intellect of Einstein. It is most amusing though.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #201
Grendel said:
I have provided evidence and we won't be in administration next March will we which was my scenario. Strangely no one seems to be backing you up either do they?

Ask some others on here then - do a poll if you like -- you won't as the response will not be in your favour. The match would be a passport to Wembley or are you saying that no one would want to go there under SISU? How about Play off Finals? No not bothered I suppose as the NOPM crusade takes its icy grip.

Keep throwing juvenile insults at me as well. It's a bit like Benny from Crossroads trying to challenge the intellect of Einstein. It is most amusing though.
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So that was your evidence, a few people on a thread, and you never said what your scenario was did you. You said you had evidence we would get afull house if we got to the JPT final, stop moving the goalposts and prove what you said .

I'll keep asking until you prove what you spout. the Benny from crossroads analogy , my god your the best , and in the same sentence you describe me like from Benny from Crossroads and say to me to stop being so juvenile.
Dig and keep digging that hole.

You need to go off line and get this evidence you have
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #202
The Reverend Skyblue said:
So that was your evidence, a few people on a thread, and you never said what your scenario was did you. You said you had evidence we would get afull house if we got to the JPT final, stop moving the goalposts and prove what you said .

I'll keep asking until you prove what you spout. the Benny from crossroads analogy , my god your the best , and in the same sentence you describe me like from Benny from Crossroads and say to me to stop being so juvenile.
Dig and keep digging that hole, you need to go off line and get this evidence you have
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I don't need to do anything. Carry on its amusing.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #203
Grendel said:
I don't need to do anything. Carry on its amusing.
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Well well , it seems he can't produce any evidence after all

Get a bloody backbone Duffy and produce this evidence you said was there. It really is that simple, its not rocket science, thank god , because I would really be up against it with you.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #204
Grendel said:
I have provided evidence and we won't be in administration next March will we which was my scenario. Strangely no one seems to be backing you up either do they?

Ask some others on here then - do a poll if you like -- you won't as the response will not be in your favour. The match would be a passport to Wembley or are you saying that no one would want to go there under SISU? How about Play off Finals? No not bothered I suppose as the NOPM crusade takes its icy grip.

Keep throwing juvenile insults at me as well. It's a bit like Benny from Crossroads trying to challenge the intellect of Einstein. It is most amusing though.
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I don't need to do a poll you thickwit, YOU HAVE THE EVIDIDENCE ALREADY.

How many more times.

My god you make my day , I love you so much grenduffy, please please keep it up I couldn't live without reading your daily posts.

Have you thought about doing a comedy book, with your grenduffyisms explained in full , it will be a best seller, but I don't have any evidence that it would be though
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #205
I'm sure people would turn up if we got to Wembley.
Which ever cup or even playoffs. There would be a massive scramble for tickets.
It might not be as much for a semi final, but the crowd would be big.

Why is this even being debated?
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #206
hill83 said:
I'm sure people would turn up if we got to Wembley.
Which ever cup or even playoffs. There would be a massive scramble for tickets.
It might not be as much for a semi final, but the crowd would be big.

Why is this even being debated?
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Hill83, we don't know that's my argument, its the first time we have been under admin, and coupled with the fan's protests,it could be the same, high but near capacity or lower.

Grenduffy though says he has the evidence that it would be full, so if you need to see this evidence best go to him
 
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Grappa

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  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #207
Rev, you're having what's technically known as a 'meltdown'.
 

hill83

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  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #208
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Hill83, we don't know that's my argument, grenduffy though says he has the evidence that it would be full, so if you need to see this evidence best go to him
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We've seen it happen a few times over the last few seasons.
Chelsea, Blackburn, Man Utd away, Crewe etc. Bellends who never go, begging for tickets.
That's evidence enough for me to suggest if a similar scenario happened this year, the same would happen.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #209
hill83 said:
We've seen it happen a few times over the last few seasons.
Chelsea, Blackburn, Man Utd away, Crewe etc. Bellends who never go, begging for tickets.
That's evidence enough for me to suggest if a similar scenario happened this year, the same would happen.
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But we didn't have the various boycotts then, your intelligent enough to understand where I'm coming from, its a shame the brain of Britain Grendel can't seem to grasp it
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2013
  • #210
It does seem a bit of a silly argument tbf, especially as within this argument we're assuming we're at the Ricoh.
 
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