stevefloyd
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Still think he is a great impact sub for the time being
Agree, plus i don't think he's up to full match fitness yet. Definitely a great impact sub against tired opponents. Would like to see him in the side eventually though!Still think he is a great impact sub for the time being
No chanceHope we somehow wrangle a deal to keep him long term
I sense a repeat of the Bright saga in the summer...No chance
If you jump to stupid conclusions, why should anyone reply to you?If Westbrook is so poor, and Shipley not our best option, and Hiwula in and out, and Jobello not yet up to speed, how come we are top of the league?
I think you've totally missed my point.If you jump to stupid conclusions, why should anyone reply to you?
He could turn out to be if he ever gets to bloody startMR (or whoever) seems be able to find these gems, so no need to worry about next season at this stage. O'Hare is potentially a better find than Bright.
I think you’ve totally missed hisI think you've totally missed my point.
The general consensus on this thread is that Westbrooke hasn’t been “so poor”, quite the opposite really. Shipley may not be our “best option” because we have better players that are injured (Kelly, probably Allen, O’Hare may not be fully fit), but that doesn’t mean the majority of people think he’s been bad. It was always going to take time for Jobello to settle, and he is improving. Hiwula has been “in and out” of games since he’s signed for us, but he scored a good number of goals last season and if he can replicate that most fans would be happy.I think you've totally missed my point.
The general consensus on this thread is that Westbrooke hasn’t been “so poor”, quite the opposite really. Shipley may not be our “best option” because we have better players that are injured (Kelly, probably Allen, O’Hare may not be fully fit), but that doesn’t mean the majority of people think he’s been bad. It was always going to take time for Jobello to settle, and he is improving. Hiwula has been “in and out” of games since he’s signed for us, but he scored a good number of goals last season and if he can replicate that most fans would be happy.
Next time don’t imply that fans are making unreasonably negative judgements on players when those judgements are either reasonable (and not totally bad), or non existent among the majority.
Suppose it could have been not sureAre you sure the strapping you saw wasn't one of those GPS monitors?
Without revealing too much, I live on a different continent.Nice post - without revealing too much, you're not from Walsgrave are you?
NonsenseAnd it's easy to look good when you come on mid-way through the second half when everyone else is tired.
There's a reason O'Hare isn't starting. Only Robins knows what that is.
Maybe he can't last 90 minutes.
And it's easy to look good when you come on mid-way through the second half when everyone else is tired.
Can he produce that for 90 minutes? We will see ... eventually.
But have you ever been to Walsgrave?Without revealing too much, I live on a different continent.
¿Possibly?But have you ever been to Walsgrave?
¿Possibly?
You mean like us at home later in the season? But I do see your point and we missed out chance to take 3 relatively easy points with help from the officials.
i like to think we would have won 3 nil but then played with less intensity vs pompey and lost and then never had the belief to get to top of tableI don't think any of us would be able to cope had we beaten them by 5 goals like everybody else and were now sitting 3 points clear with a goal difference of +10.
Shipley for me is the one id leave out. He still doesn't offer a huge amount for me. Westbrooke has a better goalscoring threat and creates more.
The two compliment each other though - Shipley being the more energetic of the two and Westbrooke the more creative. So which of the two you'd drop would depend on which of those two you think O'Hare most plays like. For me that would be Westbrooke.
At the moment the set-up is working nicely and O'Hare having the chance to have an impact against tiring legs is working. Would you prefer to be starting with O'Hare and if he runs out of steam bringing Shipley or Westbrooke on as an impact sub? I wouldn't.
The only reason I think MR might change tomorrow is if the conditioning team think either Shipley or Westbrooke need a rest.
Dreamer - that's a good post and absolutely hear what you are saying.
My only counter to that is that O'Hare instantly makes teams defend deeper against us and as such creates space for others. It means we play higher up the pitch. He also seems to combine very well with Godden (who is often isolated when he's not on the pitch) and is ideally suited to running at defenders and playing in our quick wide men. I think he's different class and if fully fit would be the first name on my team sheet.
The point you make on having an impact sub is well made; but we do have maverick Kastaneer to come on and create havoc for the last 20! I'm also looking forward to seeing Max and Godden combine at one point - again I think Max can create space for Godden - and I don't want to see Godden battle on his own against two central defenders every game for 90 minutes.
Isn’t he out of contract at the end of this season ?No chance
Who says he can’t last 90 minutes, he is sub because he can’t dislodge Westbrook and Shipley and MR said he took a bit of a knock v Walsall. I think he will stay sub v Wimbledon then there’s an eleven day break, let’s see what happens after that.We have a player that looks class, contracted to a PL team, is a fans fave, and by the battering he takes obviously scares the shit out of the opposition. If he can't last 90 minutes, got to bring him on for as much as his fitness allows. We've got him for a season, lets use him to his full potential.
If MR did bring O'Hare in from the start I wouldn't be complaining as he's clearly a talented lad. I just won't be complaining if he doesn't either. I think at some point he will inevitably be in the starting line-up but it's not imperative right now.
Kastaneer can create havoc but possibly for us almost as much as them! He's pretty maverick and while it's nice to see him trying so hard to impress and have an impact part of you just wants him to calm down a bit. It certainly interesting with him on the pitch wondering what you're going to get.
Same with Max - while it would be nice to never have to contemplate needing to see him play with Max we will inevitably at some point need to get back into a game and I would hope in those instances MR would seriously consider seeing how they pair up. He is however very reluctant to change shape during a match.
Charlie Wakefield has proved thisNonsense
Can I have a shot in your time machine?i like to think we would have won 3 nil but then played with less intensity vs pompey and lost and then never had the belief to get to top of table
bolton result was good in long run! lol
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