O hare doesn’t flatter to deceive (1 Viewer)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

DOD

Ah yes his ‘inside knowledge’

 

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[procdoc]

Put me on ignore if it bothers you that much

It doesn’t bother me. You make these grand statements without providing any evidence to back it up.

What are his deficiencies compared to every other centre forward that feature in match day squads to the rest of the top 12?

If a chance falls to anyone in the last minute Godden has the composure to tuck it away. He’s the one player you want those chances falling to. His penalty success his very high too, which is testament to his composure. His game does have weaknesses, I’m not oblivious to that but to suggest he wouldn’t get in a squad of 18 players for the 11 other teams that occupy the top 12 is laughable and just emphasises a clear lack of basic footballing knowledge

 

[clint van damme]

There are a few people who have form for general footballing nonsense

Yourself
Paxman
Magwitch
Me

Others get rumbled when they wander across from Off Topic

we've all got form for speaking nonsense, just some speak it more frequently than others!

 

[Evo1883]

There's every chance godden scores 20 this season , which is an Incredible return at this level and something every team wants to have pre season

 

[Grendel]

Correct me if I’m wrong but that was also said about Biamou by the same individual who called him the best athlete

He should try athletics his latest club don’t even pick him in their squad

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It doesn’t bother me. You make these grand statements without providing any evidence to back it up.

What are his deficiencies compared to every other centre forward that feature in match day squads to the rest of the top 12?

If a chance falls to anyone in the last minute Godden has the composure to tuck it away. He’s the one player you want those chances falling to. His penalty success his very high too, which is testament to his composure. His game does have weaknesses, I’m not oblivious to that but to suggest he wouldn’t get in a squad of 18 players for the 11 other teams that occupy the top 12 is laughable and just emphasises a clear lack of basic footballing knowledge

He’s got no pace, no physical presence and has had a few of these poorer games masked by penalties.

a few have said it recently, he doesn’t offer enough when he’s not scoring. We were much much better and balanced when we had Gyokeres and Waghorn up top

 

[clint van damme]

He’s got no pace, no physical presence and has had a few of these poorer games masked by penalties.

a few have said it recently, he doesn’t offer enough when he’s not scoring. We were much much better and balanced when we had Gyokeres and Waghorn up top

I think we're a better team with those two up front, that doesn't mean your criticisms of Godden are valid, they're not.

 

[Evo1883]

He’s got no pace, no physical presence and has had a few of these poorer games masked by penalties.

a few have said it recently, he doesn’t offer enough when he’s not scoring. We were much much better and balanced when we had Gyokeres and Waghorn up top

The team probably does have more balance that way .. but I've NEVER known supporters ro moan about a striker who scored 8 in 15 Irrespective of how they are scored

 

[Deleted member 9744]

He should try athletics his latest club don’t even pick him in their squad

Why do you still have any interest in this player?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I think we're a better team with those two up front, that doesn't mean your criticisms of Godden are valid, they're not.

Is he not limited then in his overall play at this level then in your opinion?

 

[Evo1883]

And yes statistically he's better than vik in the air

 

[Ccfcisparks]

And yes statistically he's better than vik in the air

Find me these stats please

 

[procdoc]

He’s got no pace, no physical presence and has had a few of these poorer games masked by penalties.

a few have said it recently, he doesn’t offer enough when he’s not scoring. We were much much better and balanced when we had Gyokeres and Waghorn up top

His goal per minute ratio is third best in the whole league. What he lacks in burning pace he makes up for with intelligent movement. He has deficiencies yes but it’s the suggestion he wouldn’t get in other squads which is ludicrous

 

[Evo1883]

Find me these stats please

It's on who scored opta stats .. he wins more headers per match .. see for yourself I literally just looked at them

 

[Ccfcisparks]

His goal per minute ratio is third best in the whole league. What he lacks in burning pace he makes up for with intelligent movement. He has deficiencies yes but it’s the suggestion he wouldn’t get in other squads which is ludicrous

He’s scored 3 penalties which significantly skews the data

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

we've all got form for speaking nonsense, just some speak it more frequently than others!

Oh I know, but there’s ‘FFS Walker’ and there’s ‘Biamou is the best athlete and striker of a ball at the club’. On the flip side of that I’ve got a fair bit of respect for

Esoterica
Frostie
Evo
Ring of COV

The last one not for his footballing opinions but for deflecting comments on his identity better than the Prime Minister

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Is he not limited then in his overall play at this level then in your opinion?

Yes and I think we should have kept Biamou and Bakayoko instead. All of our players have limitations but Godden is doing a good job.

 

[clint van damme]

Is he not limited then in his overall play at this level then in your opinion?

most players have limitations.
I'd say he's now our third choice striker, (that may not be the case, we'll see what happens when everyone's fit), last year our third choice was Max.
That's a huge fucking upgrade. His stats are speaking for themselves.

 

[Evo1883]

What are his limitations ? That he's only scoring 1 goal every 2 games ? A record he's had since he's been here basically

He lacks a bit of pace ? But he's scoring goals

 

[Deleted member 9744]

He’s scored 3 penalties which significantly skews the data

Using Grendel stats formula now to exclude goals to back up your point.

 

[procdoc]

He’s scored 3 penalties which significantly skews the data

Do penalties not count then? When someone else took a penalty at Barnsley they missed.

 

[Evo1883]

Using Grendel stats formula now to exclude goals to back up your point.

Shearer liked a penalty

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It's on who scored opta stats .. he wins more headers per match .. see for yourself I literally just looked at them

It’s not on Opta. It’s interesting on who scored that Gyo has significantly greater dribbles per game, more key passes. It’s not wrong to assume that Goddens build up is a lot worse

gyo also takes a lot more of keepers kicks and long balls onto his chest. I’d be interested if that played into the stats

 

[Evo1883]

It’s not on Opta. It’s interesting on who scored that Gyo has significantly greater dribbles per game, more key passes. It’s not wrong to assume that Goddens build up is a lot worse

I know , but he also has 1 less goal than vik in 700 less minutes .. there's absolutely every chance godden outscores him from open play in the next 700 minutes ..

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I know , but he also has 1 less goal than vik in 700 less minutes .. there's absolutely every chance godden outscores him from open play in the next 700 minutes ..

Why did you say you had checked opta when the stats not even on there

 

[fernandopartridge]

How much we expecting in jan for our “star player” O’Hare ?

We'll be able to sell him now bright is in the team and storming the league

 

[Evo1883]

Why did you say you had checked opta when the stats not even on there

Do you think I lie parks ?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Do you think I lie parks ?View attachment 23099

That’s who scored not opta

 

[Evo1883]

That’s who scored not opta

It's opta data you tit

 

[Ccfcisparks]

It's opta data you tit

My mistake apologies.

point still stands though. I think we are a lot weaker with Godden upfront on his own.

 

[clint van damme]

It's opta data you tit

he's at it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

My mistake apologies.

point still stands though. I think we are a lot weaker with Godden upfront on his own.

As and when Waghorn and Gyo are back up to speed I’m sure they’ll return.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

As and when Waghorn and Gyo are back up to speed I’m sure they’ll return.

Here’s hoping

 

[Evo1883]

My mistake apologies.

point still stands though. I think we are a lot weaker with Godden upfront on his own.

As and when Waghorn and Gyo are back up to speed I’m sure they’ll return.

No argument from me , godden has done fantastic since he's returned , he's a bloody good footballer

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Here’s hoping

This is a long season in a tough league with a small squad, rotation is inevitable in the few places where we have the depth. I don't like Godden on his own up front either but I don't really agree with your general assessment of him