O'brien right wingback? (2 Viewers)

KersleyDigs · Sep 22, 2014

O'brien played right wingback and right back at Barnsley before. Great engine natural wide player, tough tackler, good cross. Surely a more attacking choice?!

If we play 3-5-2, I'd like to see this until Red a gets back:

--------------------Burge-------------------
-------Willis----Hines---Clarke-------
--------------------Finch--------------------
O'brien--Thomas--Fleck--Haynes
-------------Nouble--Jackson-----------

Otis · Sep 22, 2014

KersleyDigs said:
O'brien played right wingback and right back at Barnsley before. Great engine natural wide player, tough tackler, good cross. Surely a more attacking choice?!

If we play 3-5-2, I'd like to see this until Red a gets back:

--------------------Burge-------------------
-------Willis----Hines---Clarke-------
--------------------Finch--------------------
O'brien--Thomas--Fleck--Haynes
-------------Nouble--Jackson-----------

Just think the loss to the midfield area would be too great. Don't think we can afford to lose him from where he already is.

baldy · Sep 22, 2014

To be honest,when Footy Manager 2015 comes out,I'm thinkin of playing O'Brien at right wing-back

KersleyDigs · Sep 22, 2014

I think our biggest problem is; SP bought players in the summer to play 4-4-2, hence why we have wide players (Swanson, O'Brien and Coulibaly) playing centrally or not at all.

We have Jordan Clarke (a decent defender) being asked to play an attacking role, which in my opinion is beyond his capabilities.

If SP could rewind the clock, I assume he would:

- Not have signed Swanson and bought in an attacking right wingback
- Not signed Coulibaly on loan and bought in a proper anchor man/defensively minded midfielder.
- Signed a box to box central midfielder.

wingy · Sep 22, 2014

At least he may get fouled less In that position.

Limey · Sep 22, 2014

Too good for right back/wing back at this level. Looks our best cm imo.

KersleyDigs · Sep 22, 2014

wingy said:
At least he may get fouled less In that position.

:laugh:

pusbccfc · Sep 22, 2014

Finch will be our first choice defensive midfielder by May. Looks really good.

sw88 · Sep 22, 2014

It's a no from me.

KersleyDigs · Sep 22, 2014

I agree he is good in centre mid, but in a 3-5-2 your wingbacks make or break the system. I think he would be very influential there....

KersleyDigs · Sep 22, 2014

pusbccfc said:
Finch will be our first choice defensive midfielder by May. Looks really good.

Let's hope so.....

SkyBlueScottie · Sep 22, 2014

KersleyDigs said:
I think our biggest problem is; SP bought players in the summer to play 4-4-2, hence why we have wide players (Swanson, O'Brien and Coulibaly) playing centrally or not at all.

We have Jordan Clarke (a decent defender) being asked to play an attacking role, which in my opinion is beyond his capabilities.

If SP could rewind the clock, I assume he would:

- Not have signed Swanson and bought in an attacking right wingback
- Not signed Coulibaly on loan and bought in a proper anchor man/defensively minded midfielder.
- Signed a box to box central midfielder.

Clarke isnt asked to play in an attacking position, watch how we play, when Haynes / Pugh go forward, Clarke stays back and the defence move across to cover the space left by the left wing back, Clarke is asked to provide defensive cover. Yes there are times he will get forward (much as he would do when playing right back) but primarily our attacks are currently coming from the left hand side.

KersleyDigs · Sep 22, 2014

SkyBlueScottie said:
Clarke isnt asked to play in an attacking position, watch how we play, when Haynes / Pugh go forward, Clarke stays back and the defence move across to cover the space left by the left wing back, Clarke is asked to provide defensive cover. Yes there are times he will get forward (much as he would do when playing right back) but primarily our attacks are currently coming from the left hand side.

That is too easy to defend against. Both wingbacks need to be able to attack, if this system is to be successful, only using one side for attack is too easy for teams to nullify. If teams mark Haynes tightly, like two games ago, we are forced (scarily) to use Clarke as our "attacking outlet":facepalm:

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 22, 2014

In one word to the OP "No".

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KersleyDigs · Sep 22, 2014

RoboCCFC90 said:
In one word to the OP "No".

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:slap:

ccfc92 · Sep 22, 2014

pusbccfc said:
Finch will be our first choice defensive midfielder by May. Looks really good.

I hope he does improve. Was awful vs Cardiff. Hopefully that was down to nerves.

wingy · Sep 22, 2014

ccfc92 said:
I hope he does improve. Was awful vs Cardiff. Hopefully that was down to nerves.

Hope they progress him in this ,his preferred position,and not as a Utility type player ,be wasted as a CH IMO.

RoboCCFC90 · Sep 22, 2014

KersleyDigs said:
:slap:

Sorry KD but I can't see why that idea would come into thinking, O'Brien has been one of our best players so far and I don't think Jordan Clarke has been that bad out at RWB.

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Dimi_Konstantflapalot · Sep 22, 2014

He didn't look like a natural centre half against Cardiff, truth be told. Was probably more out of necessity as Hines hadn't signed by then. Would rather see him played in his natural position, we have had far too many square pegs in round holes over the years.

logjoe · Sep 22, 2014

KersleyDigs said:
O'brien played right wingback and right back at Barnsley before. Great engine natural wide player, tough tackler, good cross. Surely a more attacking choice?!

If we play 3-5-2, I'd like to see this until Red a gets back:

--------------------Burge-------------------
-------Willis----Hines---Clarke-------
--------------------Finch--------------------
O'brien--Thomas--Fleck--Haynes
-------------Nouble--Jackson-----------

Sorry but Thomas in recent games has seriousley been found wanting

Skyblueweeman · Sep 22, 2014

ccfc92 said:
I hope he does improve. Was awful vs Cardiff. Hopefully that was down to nerves.

The whole team was awful against Cardiff, particularly in the first half.

SkyBlueScottie · Sep 22, 2014

KersleyDigs said:
That is too easy to defend against. Both wingbacks need to be able to attack, if this system is to be successful, only using one side for attack is too easy for teams to nullify. If teams mark Haynes tightly, like two games ago, we are forced (scarily) to use Clarke as our "attacking outlet":facepalm:

Do you remember when we had Christie and Adams tearing down each flank, have you noticed the big spaces left by Arsenal as their fullbacks are pushed too far forward, did you notice the big spaces left by Utd v Leicester as their wing backs were too high up the pitch.... I am sure you are beginning to get the picture.

ccfc92 · Sep 22, 2014

Skyblueweeman said:
The whole team was awful against Cardiff, particularly in the first half.

Agreed. But he was particularly awful. Couldn't pass a ball 10 yards. Like I said though, hopefully that was nerves and he progresses into a quality player

Samo · Sep 22, 2014

KersleyDigs said:
I think our biggest problem is; SP bought players in the summer to play 4-4-2, hence why we have
wide players (Swanson, O'Brien and Coulibaly) playing centrally or not at all.

We have Jordan Clarke (a decent defender) being asked to play an attacking role, which in my opinion is beyond his capabilities.

If SP could rewind the clock, I assume he would:

- Not have signed Swanson and bought in an attacking right wingback
- Not signed Coulibaly on loan and bought in a proper anchor man/defensively minded midfielder.
- Signed a box to box central midfielder.

If he brought in players for 442, commiting the club to contracts on players he won't use before changing his mind on a whim he should be fucking sacked.

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