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ccfc1234 · May 25, 2015

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/league-1/next-season-winner

I am thinking the bookies best price with Skybet of 25/1 is generous looking at the teams above us top 3 is not out the question for the each way money.

Man Utd (5/1)
Hull (9/1)
City (25/1)
Pompy (5/1)

5850/1 worth £1?

skybluesam66 · May 26, 2015

man u - not in a million years

nicksig · May 26, 2015

I can only find odds for next season winners. What are the odds on City getting promoted?

Astute · May 26, 2015

These are the latest odds for promotion

Odds for top 6 finish....very reasonable

Macca · May 26, 2015

I wouldn't be opening my wallet until we were getting 25-1 for a top 6 finish

Astute · May 26, 2015

Top 6 is what we should be aiming for. So 7/2 to me is good. Especially when you consider that Chesterfield, Shrewsbury, Barnsley, Donny, Burton, Rochdale and Oldham are shorter odds than ourselves. TM managed to get us to top 10 form with the dregs he was left with. It is a poor division. My problem is that I don't like a season long bet at short odds. It would be a steal if we start well, but if we have a slow start the odds will go up.

Skyblueweeman · May 26, 2015

I think we've finished top 6 once in my lifetime....87 or 88 if I recall correctly. I guess we've got to finish top 6 again sometime.

Macca · May 26, 2015

Skyblueweeman said:
I think we've finished top 6 once in my lifetime....87 or 88 if I recall correctly. I guess we've got to finish top 6 again sometime.

That's why I want 25-1 :-D

Houchens Head · May 26, 2015

Skyblueweeman said:
I think we've finished top 6 once in my lifetime....87 or 88 if I recall correctly. I guess we've got to finish top 6 again sometime.

You have to go further back than that SWM! 1970! 45 bleedin' years ago! Oh, how I've suffered!

mrtrench · May 26, 2015

Astute said:
It would be a steal if we start well, but if we have a slow start the odds will go up.

Are you a bookie? You seem to have inside information...

Skyblueweeman · May 26, 2015

Houchens Head said:
You have to go further back than that SWM! 1970! 45 bleedin' years ago! Oh, how I've suffered!

Is that how long ago it was?! F*ck me! I was sure that the table printed on the inside of one of my late 80's season compilations showed us 6th one season. Wow...so then, we've never finished Top 6 in my 35 years on this wonderful place we call earth. Unbelievable.

We've got to do it some time. I'm still not 100% assured like many that TM is the messiah like many feel (and no, I don't know who else would be) but I think a lot depends on TMs transfer policy. SPs was notoriously poor...hopefully TM has more success and the players coming in are worth their salt.

I think I'm still scarred from the Crewe game...

Skyblueweeman · May 26, 2015

mrtrench said:
Are you a bookie? You seem to have inside information...

That's just common sense...no inside information needed. You start well, your odds shorten so whatever you took looks good...you start badly, your odds drift. That's how betting and odds work Mr T.

mrtrench · May 26, 2015

Sorry, Skyblueweeman - was being sarcastic. Also, thought about writing "No shit, Sherlock".

Skyblueweeman · May 26, 2015

mrtrench said:
Sorry, Skyblueweeman - was being sarcastic. Also, thought about writing "No shit, Sherlock".

**Weeman get's coat, get's in taxi**

sw88 · May 26, 2015

mrtrench said:
Are you a bookie? You seem to have inside information...

Astute is always putting bets on so is bound to know the ways of how things work

LB87ccfc · May 26, 2015

Astute said:
Top 6 is what we should be aiming for. So 7/2 to me is good. Especially when you consider that Chesterfield, Shrewsbury, Barnsley, Donny, Burton, Rochdale and Oldham are shorter odds than ourselves. TM managed to get us to top 10 form with the dregs he was left with. It is a poor division. My problem is that I don't like a season long bet at short odds. It would be a steal if we start well, but if we have a slow start the odds will go up.

9/1 to be promoted
25/1 to win the league

Both need to be backed if you have a dabble at 7/2 for top 6 finish.

Best to wait to see who we bring in first before making an investment.

Houchens Head · May 26, 2015

LB87ccfc said:
9/1 to be promoted
25/1 to win the league

Both need to be backed if you have a dabble at 7/2 for top 6 finish.

Best to wait to see who we bring in first before making an investment.

Worth a 25p each way, treble chance, perm any 8 from 12 Yankee :thinking about:

PVA · May 26, 2015

7/2 for top 6 is abysmal odds considering we've not finished in those places for 50 odd years.

stupot07 · May 26, 2015

PVA said:
7/2 for top 6 is abysmal odds considering we've not finished in those places for 50 odd years.

Yeah have the longest odds Crewe 20/1 followed by Colchester 11/1, the poor vale 7/1 on sky best. Not enticing at all 7/2.

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ccfc1234 · May 27, 2015

PVA said:
7/2 for top 6 is abysmal odds considering we've not finished in those places for 50 odd years.

How often have we been in league one surrounded by mediocre clubs? There are no where near 6 clubs bigger than us in this league and there are no way six clubs with better managers than us. Will there be six bigger budgets than city?

Astute · May 27, 2015

ccfc1234 said:
How often have we been in league one surrounded by mediocre clubs? There are no where near 6 clubs bigger than us in this league and there are no way six clubs with better managers than us. Will there be six bigger budgets than city?

Agree with all except the budget. Last season we were told that we had a top 10 budget. If it was top 6 they would have said so. But saying that we don't know what TM was after in the negotiations although he did say he wasn't after any more money. But saying that we should sell many more ST's this season. Each extra 1.000 adult ST's sold is an extra £249,000 in income. Last season we started in the wrong location. The move back sold more ST's but not as many as if we had started the season in Coventry. I know of supporters that are buying ST's that have not bought one for a few years. And looking on here there are many more. If we manage an extra 4,000 sold that is an extra 1m income. Give TM 600k of this and it would make a massive difference. If he then manages to put a winning side together many more will come back. And they won't be at the early bird prices.

So yes we could end up with a top 6 budget with about the best manager in this division. There is no reason why we can't get at least in the top 6. And past history has nothing to do with it. I would say it is 48 years since we were in the top 6. Without checking I am sure we went up in 67. We spent most of these years in top flight. And since then we have been in freefall after Richardson got us into major debt and left us without our own ground.

The odds given are from how teams did last season. We finished 17th. But they have not taken into account how well we did with TM in place with a squad that was going down. He will have his own squad and the players he needs for the way he wants to play. This is why I see 7/2 to finish in the top 6 as a good price. They are my reasons for saying we should at least be aiming for the top 6. A slightly better argument than just saying we won't do it because we haven't managed it for 48 years. We have clubs like Shrewsbury and Chesterfield on only 13/8. For those unsure of odds that is a profit of £3.25 for a £2 bet. We are a profit of £7 for a £2 bet. I know where my money will be.

Optimistic? Yes. Too optimistic? Not at all. I am sure that Tony Mowbrays sky blue army is going to have fun next season. The most fun we have had since the late 80's.

Sky_Blue_Daz · May 27, 2015

Chelsea to win the league
Hull to win championship
city to get promoted
celtic to win spl
Might have a fiver on that

SkyBlueChris · May 27, 2015

Correct me if I'm wrong (please!) But I thought FFP was based on last year's income? So ST sales for this year will only affect us next year??

chiefdave · May 27, 2015

SkyBlueChris said:
Correct me if I'm wrong (please!) But I thought FFP was based on last year's income? So ST sales for this year will only affect us next year??

I believe the way the system in use in L1 works is that you submit a budget for the forthcoming season. The FL then check at certain points (not sure how many) to make sure you are close to that budget so you can't say we'll have £10m in revenues this season and spend on that basis when you're only likely to have £1m.

SlowerThanPlatt · Jul 10, 2015

Just got 16/1 on every City game in League 1 to have over 0.5 goals - so no 0-0s. Think that's a great price myself

Godiva · Jul 10, 2015

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Just got 16/1 on every City game in League 1 to have over 0.5 goals - so no 0-0s. Think that's a great price myself

I think you can write off that 'investment'.
Last term we drew 0-0 6 times. There will be the odd match where one of the teams have 20+ attempts on goal, but somehow the ball won't go in.

It happened in the 2012/13 season, but then our strike force was on fire at least half the season.

I_Saw_Shaw_Score · Jul 10, 2015

This side at present couldn't have 0-0 written all over it any more. Solid defensively, nothing up top.

Esoterica · Jul 10, 2015

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Just got 16/1 on every City game in League 1 to have over 0.5 goals - so no 0-0s. Think that's a great price myself

No 0-0s but 1 big 0_0

Esoterica · Jul 10, 2015

I just read Swindon 'released 10 players in the summer, sold another two and saw six loanees return to their parent clubs' and are still somehow 5/4 for a top 6 finish!!

Sheffield Utd 2/1	Millwall 12/5
Wigan 11/4	Peterborough 100/30
Swindon 100/30	Chesterfield 7/2
Shrewsbury 7/2	Bradford 4/1
Barnsley 5/1	Doncaster 5/1
Burton 7/1	Rochdale 8/1
Coventry 9/1	Oldham 9/1
Fleetwood Town 9/1	Blackpool 10/1
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Walsall 11/1	Scunthorpe 12/1
Bury 14/1	Southend 14/1
Gillingham 16/1	Port Vale 18/1
Colchester 22/1	Crewe 33/1

Sheffield Utd 4/5	Millwall 10/11
Wigan 1/1	Swindon 5/4
Peterborough 6/4	Chesterfield 13/8
Bradford 13/8	Shrewsbury 13/8
Barnsley 15/8	Doncaster 2/1
Burton 12/5	Rochdale 3/1
Oldham 100/30	Fleetwood Town 7/2
Coventry 7/2	Walsall 4/1
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Scunthorpe 9/2	Bury 5/1
Blackpool 11/2	Southend 11/2
Gillingham 11/2	Port Vale 7/1
Colchester 11/1	Crewe 20/1

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