Skyblueweeman
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Brave of him to face it head on if you ask me.
OFFICIAL: Mark Robins has been sacked (7 Viewers)
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David O'Day
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The man who forgot to pay for his season ticket shouldn't really be questioning peoples schooling.
David O'Day
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I'll make nothing of it
shmmeee
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The point is it’s effectively Doug. He appoints the backroom staff. So we’ve got a manager we can’t sack.
RoboCCFC90
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Sorry, but don't agree with the word premature.
We've won four league games since the Man Utd SF, what's that 20 games ago or more?
It's not good enough.
Do you think we should have a comparable coaching structure to every other championship club or do you think we should go back to a manager and assistant because that is what worked before? Because you are criticising the fact people have compared the coaching structure to elite clubs so the inference is we shouldn’t replicate that structure.
Personally I don’t think we should assume causation either way.
Evo1883
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Look at the end of the day now doug has his clean slate , what I feel he's always really wanted and the club is his to guide in his own image from this point .
He needs to hope for his own sake he gets the next appointment right
Nick
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Not sure about the Palmer thing.
DrPoolittle
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Two promotions, a cup win, a tough semi final defeat and an even harsher play-off final defeat.
That record stands up to scrutiny definitely at Coventry and probably with many other clubs’ histories too.
It’s a disgraceful decision and has the potential to bite DK. Hard. Right up the chuff.
You get the feeling that Doug King has wanted this all along. The chance to run the club the way he fancies it. He has bought a train set and doesn’t want any interference in how he plays with it. He has gradually changed the entire set-up at Cov……Mark Robins was the final and most important part of the train set that King didn’t choose.
Mark Robins deserved a) the chance to finish the season and b) the opportunity to leave Coventry when he decided to.
That record stands up to scrutiny definitely at Coventry and probably with many other clubs’ histories too.
It’s a disgraceful decision and has the potential to bite DK. Hard. Right up the chuff.
You get the feeling that Doug King has wanted this all along. The chance to run the club the way he fancies it. He has bought a train set and doesn’t want any interference in how he plays with it. He has gradually changed the entire set-up at Cov……Mark Robins was the final and most important part of the train set that King didn’t choose.
Mark Robins deserved a) the chance to finish the season and b) the opportunity to leave Coventry when he decided to.
Mucca Mad Boys
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The home form in particular just hasn’t been good enough. We’ve lost 4 home games already.
There is a real risk that we’ve been badly exposed to the teams that are defensive and physical.
Eccles and Sheaf being 2 pivots is something that worked last season but looks completely broken this season. Too often, we moving the ball side to side and teams will put 10 men behind the ball and we have no answers. All of our losses, barring Leeds away against Derby, Swansea, Norwich, PNE, Sheff W and Stoke have happened this way. Unable to break teams down.
It really doesn’t help that Robins looks fundamentally unsure of what his best team is.
RoboCCFC90
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Absolute tosh, things were bad before we sold Palmer.
Ccfc_Addy
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Notionally it's a welcome example of the kind of transparency that we've been badly lacking and a good example of why it's beneficial having these supporters groups, but in practice I find it unlikely King will give any kind of useful information
shmmeee
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I think if something works for seven years then you make a big change and it stops working it’s a safe bet that what you changed is the issue.
Senior Vick from Alicante
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I think if you look at where we are, taking out the FA cup run, the results have been below standard since March of last year. If people were to look at it statistically rather than the emotional connect we feel with Robins then they might change there view.
Evo1883
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What is it with people wanting to change things that work just because it doesn't fit with the norm ?
Crazy
Sky Blue Dal
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I fear this will be a disaster. Bad decision. After what MR done for the club, I feel DK may have jumped the gun here.
DK better have a bloody good replacement in waiting. I very much doubt he has.
No loyalty shown in the way this has played out.
Wish you all the best MR and a big thank you for all you done.
DK better have a bloody good replacement in waiting. I very much doubt he has.
No loyalty shown in the way this has played out.
Wish you all the best MR and a big thank you for all you done.
Evo1883
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If he can sack a club legend 14 games into a season then a new manager won't get much more than 7 or 8 games.
Back to the merry go round we go
mmttww
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if her decisions or recommendations don't work in the medium or long term. You know that's the deal.
Playing devil's advocate... lots of people pointing to data that says we're playing better than the points column. Also saying it's on the players, not MR.
We know MR isn't about the detail, so his job is to turn underlying performance into points. Lead them in a way that gets us over the line. He isn't.
Evo1883
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Really ? Feel genuinley gutted I do
shmmeee
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Saw it in teaching all the time. A few people are talented teachers. We look at them and write down what they do. Then we tell everyone this is the definition of being a good teacher and you must do this but we don’t know why and most good teachers don’t do it either.
It’s just stupidity and fear.
shmmeee
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The problem is the player mentality above all else. That’s the main thing the performance director is responsible for, and it’s taken a noticeable turn for the worse since her appointment. When exactly do you call her on that? Instead you sack the guy who has been over performing for seven years?
Lunacy.
RegiswasGod
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Good. Happy for you
Mucca Mad Boys
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I mean, the job title of head coach and manager are more or the less the same now.
Absolutely knew this was on the cards head coach not a manager, robins ran this club top to bottom and did it amazingly well, DKs ego couldn’t take it, some puppet to come in.
Pathetic
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To reiterate, I wouldn’t have sacked Robins. However, it was someone who didn’t have 6-7 good years previously, you’d look our form at the tail end last season and this one and you’d sack them.
I’m fully aware that my faith in Robins to turn it around was based on his previous performances. There is the possibility that, he might not be able to that this time.
Northants Sky Blue
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Would love us to unearth a relative unknown from Europe who takes us to the next level.
But DK's history/precedent of overpaying on playing staff doesnt fill me with confidence.
I hope Im wrong and we get it right
But DK's history/precedent of overpaying on playing staff doesnt fill me with confidence.
I hope Im wrong and we get it right
Warwickhunt
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I was watching MR last night from the stands and thought something wasn't right with him and his demeanour! What a bad two days Trump getting in, handing Derby an easy 3 points & MR going. All I know is I hope we don't turn into a club playing like Derby it will do my swede in!
I think the disruption is probably part of it but that doesn’t mean we should never change the structure. At some point if we want to progress changes were needed. MR said the same thing.
Most of the criticism this season has been that MR had tactics wrong, MR didn’t change it, and that players are not good enough, lacking confidence etc. I don’t see how that is the fault of new coaches or Dr Roberts
Evo1883
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We will have bad form with new head coaches too , we can't just keep sacking people
Nick
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We were on the decline before the coaches?
SIR ERNIE
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yep.
On reflection he seemed lost without Viveash and Lawrence, so maybe it's time.
What a great era though.
shmmeee
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Were they? Why did things get so much worse one they were changed then?
Live in reality not some manual you’ve read or whatever. How was this the right time and right decision for Coventry City FC at this time?
Mucca Mad Boys
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The manager is responsible for motivating the players and frankly, our issues this year have been tactical.
We’ve lost to some average teams who have approached the game in more or less the same way.
Singling out the performance director is just a bit bizarre. The performances haven’t been good enough.
Feeling odd as someone who normally pushes for stability to be more on the side of ready to roll the dice. Mark has done fantastic things for this club and will forever be a legend as far as I'm concerned. It feels like a lot of people want to excuse him from the coach and structure decisions which he will have been absolutely complicit in and leading from a football side similarly with recruitment he would have always had the final say and at least a hand in how the team is structured. There is more to just a few results and the fact this season we haven't kicked on from the start with the resources thrown at it his position was always looking shaky. Now, King could employ and absolute chump and we are screwed but we are no longer the basket case club that decent managers wouldn't come to and should be able to attract talent. I have felt sorry for Mark this season in his interviews he seems to not know how to make this current group perform unfortunately as their manager the buck stops with you as it does in all industries.