Yep I’m interested that football have pretty much decided that they want to keep the mistakes pre var. The wolves manager was crazy the other day talking about the offside goal and the commentators don’t help.As much as I like Wenger and this sounds like it will solve everything, practically speaking I think it's a rubbish proposal.
Completely changes the basic art of defending and also makes it harder for the linesman trying to judge offside initially. Also still doesn't tackle the issue that there is a very fine margin when it comes to VAR, you're essentially just drawing the line in a different place
Yeah ok that’s not a bad shout!The existing rules are fine but the problem is not allowing some degree of tolerance as they have in cricket. The Italian clubs’ proposal for a ‘challenge’ system seems most appealing and if somebody is offside by 1 mm then a goal should still stand as there will be some margin of error in the technology.
The current rules aren’t the problem
Except it isn't precise. There's a significant margin of error. The cameras are running at 50fps so if a player is running at around 15mph there's a margin of error well over 10cm.You're either offside or you're not, and now that they have a way to show with absolute precision whether you are offside or not, they still don't like it.
So it has to have a bit of wriggle room doesn’t it!! And that’s a little remiss of those in power at the fa not ensuring that’s what was done from the startExcept it isn't precise. There's a significant margin of error. The cameras are running at 50fps so if a player is running at around 15mph there's a margin of error well over 10cm.
You've also got the issue of exactly when the ball is being played. Is it when the foot first makes contact with the ball or when the ball is no longer in contact with the foot? When you're talking such fine margins its an important distinction, but again the tech is not good enough to be that accurate.
And on top of all that you've got the issue of the parallax angle which means unless you've got camera's locked off covering every mm of the touchline you can't be certain.
Except it isn't precise. There's a significant margin of error. The cameras are running at 50fps so if a player is running at around 15mph there's a margin of error well over 10cm.
You've also got the issue of exactly when the ball is being played. Is it when the foot first makes contact with the ball or when the ball is no longer in contact with the foot? When you're talking such fine margins its an important distinction, but again the tech is not good enough to be that accurate.
And on top of all that you've got the issue of the parallax angle which means unless you've got camera's locked off covering every mm of the touchline you can't be certain.
To me its simple. Use 'umpires call' as in cricket. Anything but a very obvious error stays with the onfield call. And it should be the ref reviewing any VAR not somebody miles away.
As much as I like Wenger and this sounds like it will solve everything, practically speaking I think it's a rubbish proposal.
Completely changes the basic art of defending and also makes it harder for the linesman trying to judge offside initially. Also still doesn't tackle the issue that there is a very fine margin when it comes to VAR, you're essentially just drawing the line in a different place
I know I'm grossly oversimplifying but why not get rid of linesmen and just use var?
It’s not any part orca. The arms don’t countI don't actually think VAR is the problem here. The law is. the way the offside law is written means that if any part of the body that can score a goal is offside, you're offside. It's a binary decision, you either are or you're not.
So, change the law. Wenger's proposal is fine and actually Souness put a similar suggestion when punditing the other week. As was pointed out about, the technology isn't flawless, so the law should reflect this. My personal view is that it should be based on there being daylight between the attacking and defending player's sternum as it could be much more easily seen by the naked eye and would require much less 'drawing of lines' or checking armpits and the like. It would also have the advantage of giving the on field assistant a better chance of getting it right.
That's why I said "any part of the body that can score a goal"It’s not any part orca. The arms don’t count
Speak your mind mate come on off the fenceMistakes are part of sport ffs. Games are won and lost by players making errors. I don’t know why we expect officials to be any different.
The flow of the game gets fucked by having to stop while people study VAR footage for millimeter decisions. It’s fucking ridiculous in my opinion.
millimetres ffsFootball went up its own arse with VAR and offsides being decided by fucking millimeters.
Mistakes are part of sport ffs. Games are won and lost by players making errors. I don’t know why we expect officials to be any different.
The flow of the game gets fucked by having to stop while people study VAR footage for millimeter decisions. It’s fucking ridiculous in my opinion.
Good news
An inch advantage with your toe is not rly an advantage. Always proposed dayliggt rule myself
Too many goals being ruled out
Var isnt the problem the offside rule is
I think daylight is ambiguous though. Daylight, 10cm or whatever is a HUGE advantage to someone like Aguero.
Obvious flaw in this daylight rule, what we going to do at night matches ?[/QUOTE
;its always daytime somewhere, play wherever that is,?
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